USB 3.0 External Hard Drive Help

Jordan97 · 29 May 2011 at 14:26

Some people like to use 'your' in its alternative module to express a plural group and as a universal term. I thought that maybe you weren't educated enough to realise this.

And seeing as though I buy from a shop that already offers free P&P and the prices are considerably lower, I do not need the free postage OcUK offers because I don't buy from here.

Surveyor · 29 May 2011 at 14:40

Jordan97 said:
I thought that maybe you weren't educated enough to realise this.

This from someone who admits to not even being able to read properly:

Jordan97 said:
Oh yes sorry, I did not read the title properly and did not notice what CPU you had.

Jordan97 · 29 May 2011 at 14:45

So now you have resulted to going through all my posts to find something that you can use to insult me? Immature much.

I was simply scanning the different threads quickly saw the title 'First Time Overclocker' and gave the poster advice regarding his question; maybe that's something you should try.

Surveyor · 29 May 2011 at 14:52

Jordan97 said:
So now you have resulted to going through all my posts to find something that you can use to insult me? Immature much.

Not really.

I saw the thread and saw your post.

I'm sorry if you feel insulted but "I thought that maybe you weren't educated enough to realise this" isn't exactly a compliment

Jordan97 said:
I was simply scanning the different threads quickly saw the title 'First Time Overclocker' and gave the poster advice regarding his question; maybe that's something you should try.

I do.

But I read the posts first and try to avoid giving advice which could cause damage.

Do not overclock with BCLK, doing so could limit lifespan of the CPU

Peace.

End of discussion.

Jordan97 · 29 May 2011 at 15:00

At what point did I say I was complimenting you when I said "I thought that maybe you weren't educated enough to realise this"?

Since when did increasing the base clock cause damage? If you know how to do it, then it is perfectly safe. Just because the multiplier is unlocked on a 2500K, it does not mean you cannot increase the FSB. It is purely to make overclocking easier by allowing you to increase the multiplier.

Surveyor · 29 May 2011 at 15:08

Jordan97 said:
Since when did increasing the base clock cause damage? If you know how to do it, then it is perfectly safe. Just because the multiplier is unlocked on a 2500K, it does not mean you cannot increase the FSB. It is purely to make overclocking easier by allowing you to increase the multiplier.

For your information:

Base Clock (BCLK) - this refers to the clock of the Sandy Bridge platform, which is 100MHz. Previous-generation platforms allowed for the BCLK to be raised quite easily, providing another way to increase overall system speed. However, with Sandy Bridge it's a little trickier as Intel's new architecture amalgamates a memory controller and GPU onto the same piece of silicon as the CPU. As a consequence, raising the BCLK on a Sandy Bridge platform will increase the speed of various components and quickly introduce the risk of instability. Overclocking by BCLK is therefore not recommended.

In the spirit of integration, Intel made one more change this round: the 6-series chipsets integrate the clock generator. What once was a component on the motherboard, the PLL is now on the 6-series chipset die. The integrated PLL feeds a source clock to everything from the SATA and PCIe controllers to the SNB CPU itself. With many components driven off of this one clock, Intel has locked it down pretty tight.

And from OcUK:

Do not overclock with BCLK, doing so could limit lifespan of the CPU

DragonQ · 29 May 2011 at 15:10

Jordan97 said:
Since when did increasing the base clock cause damage? If you know how to do it, then it is perfectly safe. Just because the multiplier is unlocked on a 2500K, it does not mean you cannot increase the FSB. It is purely to make overclocking easier by allowing you to increase the multiplier.

This has been the case for a while but not for Sandy Bridge. You cannot safely overclock the non-"K" CPUs.

Jordan97 · 29 May 2011 at 15:18

This simply states that by increasing the BCLK on a Sandybridge model is can increase the risk of stability and so it is not recommended. Nowhere does it say that changing it is dangerous. If you are experienced and know what you are doing, then you will know how to push this to the limit and gain more from your machine without damaging the hardware.

Obviously it is just easier for a beginner to increase the multiplier and so I corrected my mistake as soon as I realised I had made it. I am only human; we all make mistakes some time or another.

And in answer to a previous post:

Surveyor said:
But I read the posts first and try to avoid giving advice which could cause damage.

If the OP had put this is the description instead of in the title, I would have noticed it and not told him to increase the BCLK and this current conversation would not have headed this way.

Surveyor · 29 May 2011 at 15:26

Jordan97 said:
This simply states that by increasing the BCLK on a Sandybridge model is can increase the risk of stability and so it is not recommended. Nowhere does it say that changing it is dangerous. If you are experienced and know what you are doing, then you will know how to push this to the limit and gain more from your machine without damaging the hardware.

kuroneko808 · 29 May 2011 at 15:56

Yep, both the cable and the port have the blue 'tab' on them.

I'm beginning to wonder whether there is something physically wrong with the USB 3 ports themselves. :confused:

Surveyor · 29 May 2011 at 16:09

kuroneko808 said:
Yep, both the cable and the port have the blue 'tab' on them.

I'm beginning to wonder whether there is something physically wrong with the USB 3 ports themselves.

Just to clarify.

These are the ports on the rear of the case, the ones actually built into the motherboard?

kuroneko808 · 29 May 2011 at 20:26

Yes, they are.

Surveyor · 29 May 2011 at 20:49

The driver on the Gigabyte website is a little out of date.

MSI have a slightly newer driver which I think is for the same controller chip.

You could try the driver from the MSI site:

Driver Download

Set a restore point before trying it as you may need to go back.

kuroneko808 · 30 May 2011 at 09:46

I've done that, but I'm afraid that it's not resolved the problem. I still get the little message balloon telling me that the drive will work faster if connected to a superspeed usb3 port (despite the fact that it is of course).