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Used Mining Cards

pieman109 said:
I've posted a pic on here about 18-24 months ago, (god knows where it would be) on the die of a gigabyte gtx1070 where the centre fan failed while in a mining rig. I went round to pick it up and the chap I was buying from was fitting a replacement fan. Passed a coupla benchies with no problems so paid and off I went. Got installed in a mate's pc and the temps were about 95c ish and the bugger was throttling like crazy. Anyways, took the cooler/fan assembly offf and there it was, the die wasn't only tarnished (a sort of light brown colour), but severely pitted as well. The thermal paste and all the pads were in a very poor state as well, being all flaky almost like paper, while some of the thermal paste was so old and hard on the copper heat plate, I had to use emery cloth to get it off. So, straight back round to the guy I bought it from, showed him, he just shrugged his shoulders, handed me an asus 1070, tested that and all was fine and dandy. That was from a mining rig, because he told me his Father and his friend were running one with about 1500 gpus in it.
Real case of once bitten, permanently shy, lol.
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So one person took shoddy care of a GPU = all are bad?

I am not a miner and never have been but I see this as completely stupid logic.
 
Tired9 said:
No one is mining 24/7 no more either.

Cards can die in a week or last years from brand new, your point?
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Either way you're taking a risk buying an ex mining card in my opinion, and when you're spending upwards of say, £500, thats a lot of dough you've just thrown down the swanney,.
 
pieman109 said:
Either way you're taking a risk buying an ex mining card in my opinion, and when you're spending upwards of say, £500, thats a lot of dough you've just thrown down the swanney,.
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We take risks buying new mate, to me there is no difference.

5700-XT was a risky buy, drivers never fixed for some of us users, nothing to do with mining.

Here a chap can't even run two screens: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/green-screen.18959006/page-2

Your CPU or GPU may not overclock like someone else's, I happen to own the fastest 3070 on Heaven 4.0 benchmark yet the slowest 5600x and 5800x on Fallout 4 bench.

There is no such thing as no risk LOL.
 
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Tired9 said:
So one person took shoddy care of a GPU = all are bad?

I am not a miner and never have been but I see this as completely stupid logic.
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Oh here we go again, I had this before, same thing. Listen, I had a bad experience, its put me personally off buying mining cards from people I don't know for life. Everyone else, can do do want they want and take a risk that they "might" get a runt of a card with issues. chances are, they won't, but the risk is still there. If you buy from MM or ocuk, you've probably got a bit of comeback from the MM, and warranty with ocuk so you're kinda covered. You won't get any of that with an ex mining card I reckon.
You pays your money and you takes your chance, simple as that
 
Tired9 said:
We take risks buying new mate, to me there is no difference.

5700-XT was a risky buy, drivers never fixed for some of us users, nothing to do with mining.

Here a chap can't even run two screens: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/green-screen.18959006/page-2

Your CPU or GPU may not overclock like someone else's, I happen to own the fastest 3070 on Heaven 4.0 benchmark yet the slowest 5600x and 5800x on Fallout 4 bench.

There is no such thing as no risk LOL.
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You can minimize risk by buying new, buying the MM (if you have access that is) buying from a mate, using paypal, etc. And when you buy new, at least you've got a warranty. I also had a 5700xt and had a prob with drivers for a few days till it was fixed by AMD, so what?
 
pieman109 said:
Oh here we go again, I had this before, same thing. Listen, I had a bad experience, its put me personally off buying mining cards from people I don't know for life. Everyone else, can do do want they want and take a risk that they "might" get a runt of a card with issues. chances are, they won't, but the risk is still there. If you buy from MM or ocuk, you've probably got a bit of comeback from the MM, and warranty with ocuk so you're kinda covered. You won't get any of that with an ex mining card I reckon.
You pays your money and you takes your chance, simple as that
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In general mate you are covered. Use fleebay, OCUK MM, places where people can be tracked and traced and where a system is implemented to help either the customer or the seller.

It has never been fully perfect buying second hand and it has never been fully perfect buying new either.

Luckily the 3 cards I sold got to the buyer in the shape I sent them out, if not it is out of my hands and the system deals with us both.
Same as buying.
 
Tired9 said:
In general mate you are covered. Use fleebay, OCUK MM, places where people can be tracked and traced and where a system is implemented to help either the customer or the seller.

It has never been fully perfect buying second hand and it has never been fully perfect buying new either.

Luckily the 3 cards I sold got to the buyer in the shape I sent them out, if not it is out of my hands and the system deals with us both.
Same as buying.
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This is what I've been saying, minimize risk, and in my case, don't touch any mining card:)
 
pieman109 said:
You can minimize risk by buying new, buying the MM (if you have access that is) buying from a mate, using paypal, etc. And when you buy new, at least you've got a warranty. I also had a 5700xt and had a prob with drivers for a few days till it was fixed by AMD, so what?
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Exactly, your user experience was totally different to mine and a lot of others, the supposed driver fix never fixed it, nether did new motherboard, power supplies or any other BS tricks.

It still don't mean everyone will have a bad time.

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Get it now?

Do I recommend the 5700-XT? NO, would I stop someone buying it? NO.
 
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Tired9 said:
Exactly, your user experience was totally diffrent to mine and a lot of others, the supposed driver fix never fixed it, nether did new motherboard, power supplies or any other BS tricks.

It still don;t mean everyone will have a bad time.

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Get it now?
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Where did I say or even infer "everybody will have a bad time"? This conversation is circling around the same points so I'm out.
 
pieman109 said:
Either way you're taking a risk buying an ex mining card in my opinion, and when you're spending upwards of say, £500, thats a lot of dough you've just thrown down the swanney,.
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Right there...

To your infer, it is you implying.
 
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I bought an ex mining card a gtx 1070ti and it run like a champ for 2 years before I sold it on. I also mined on a 3080 for over a year running it at 106c on the VRAM as I didn't want to mess about changing the pads and possibly voiding the warranty and that's also been perfectly since for the last 6 months after stopping mining.

Buying used is always a gamble but try to get one that's not been opened and make sure you get a receipt and has not already been registered then you can use the warranty if needed.
 
Marak said:
I had about 8 cards mining 24/7 at one point. Several have now been sold/given to friends and family and not one has been reported back to me as having a problem yet. I did of course care for them properly by undervolting and giving them a lot of space between cards for airflow.

Let the chap demonstrate it for you, and if it passes some 3d tests without crashing then I agree there shouldn't be a problem.

Listen out for rattly fans though, as the only moving part its most likely to break.
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Can I join your friends list next time you'll be giving one away? ;)
 
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