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V-Ram arguments, 4GB is not enough!

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Mirror's Edge... game started stuttering, i looked up to my OSD, 4049MB.. :o

In your face 290/X owners, you're not safe either. :p

 
Be interesting to know if its actual usage though - with Rapture my 780 is sitting there at 2600MB used (so not maxing out its available VRAM) while in the same scene the 980ti was sitting at just shy of 5GB heh.

EDIT: Is that the 970? might actually be seeing that consequences of that last 500MB :O
 
Bah,I have 4GB of VRAM on my GTX960 - its perfectly fine at 1440X900,which at what point it runs out of Steam!!

Take that GTX970 owners,I haze more usable VRAM then you!!

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Rroff said:
Be interesting to know if its actual usage though - with Rapture my 780 is sitting there at 2600MB used (so not maxing out its available VRAM) while in the same scene the 980ti was sitting at just shy of 5GB heh.

EDIT: Is that the 970? might actually be seeing that consequences of that last 500MB :O
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People really don't get the difference between uses and needs, shame really as it's such a completely basic and simple concept to grasp.

Won't go near the second game but based on what I've seen and the original games graphic style I would be shocked if it required more than a couple GB of memory, if that frankly. That is need btw, being an Nvidia game(going off the first game), it never surprises me when Nvidia games randomly use much more memory than they need, gotta drive them sales of cards with more memory.

Also 4GB cards don't have 4000MB, they have 4096MB of memory........
 
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drunkenmaster said:
People really don't get the difference between uses and needs, shame really as it's such a completely basic and simple concept to grasp.

Won't go near the second game but based on what I've seen and the original games graphic style I would be shocked if it required more than a couple GB of memory, if that frankly. That is need btw, being an Nvidia game(going off the first game), it never surprises me when Nvidia games randomly use much more memory than they need, gotta drive them sales of cards with more memory.

Also 4GB cards don't have 4000MB, they have 4096MB of memory........
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I'm sure they do, We all know about caching but if it was always caching causing the usage numbers to look so high we wouldn't have performance tanking with some games and making them become a stutter fest unless we lower stuff like texture settings to reduce our usage, I agree that there's no need for such demands to be made but when as an example AMD used only 4gb's of HBM in there enthusiast cards that gave Nvidia a reason to make games they helped develop use more than 4gb's for the maximum settings so that in turn makes the AMD cards look inferior when compared to Nvidia's enthusiast models. Let's face it Nvidia would be stupid not to take advantage of such an opportunity to look good. It's business. And now some games are demanding more than 4 gb's before what grunt is available becomes an issue.
 
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Mirror's Edge... game started stuttering, i looked up to my OSD, 4049MB.. :o

In your face 290/X owners, you're not safe either. :p
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R290 etc have full speed 4GB VRAM. GTX970 has 3.5GB at full speed. The rest .5GB tank the card performance when used. Not news. But you were clapping that NVidia about this, instead of throwing rotten tomatoes and eggs at them :D
 
The 970 is sure going to be an interesting thing to observe once Nvidia stop propping it up with driver optimisations in a couple of months. ;)
 
Yeah 4GB 'GDDR5' would see some limitations in some games in some scenarios, maybe the GTX 970 even more so with it's unique memory design.

4GB 'HBM' however does just fine.

So if you're buying a GDDR5 card an R9 390 / R9 390X would be a good shout for that 8GB if memory is a concern, if you're spending GTX 980 kinda money then a Radeon Fury / Nano would be a better buy as similar price but comes with 4GB HBM VS 4GB GDDR5 and offers more performance.

Good thread.
 
The cause is the 970 and its 500mb of slow VRAM. If it's 1080p i find it hard to beleive a single 970 can use 4gb unless the game is cacheing the whole lot.

I've had 4gb 980's in SLI with 4k and they never went over. 4076mb like but they didn't stutter like what you are describing.
 
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