Valve Index VR

[gazzamcg]

Glad you're enjoying it. Are you keeping it (the quest 2)?

Cheers,I'm not sure yet.

Reports of a Quest pro coming out early this year with a miniled screen and the Quest 3 coming out next year, so I think I would rather wait until then with the improvements the headsets will bring.

 

[gazzamcg]

the Quest Pro, i believe is more aimed at non gamers

Oh is it,strange

 

[gazzamcg]

Quest 2 is basically good enough now for the consumer market. It has enough resolution, good tracking, and lots of content, is cheap and there are plenty of third party add-ons.

Plus they have set the thermal limits pretty conservatively, so looking at the thrermal data from the millions of headsets in use they might be able to increase the clock speed to get better performance later via a firmware update.

I'm certainly interested in a Quest pro though, especially if it has a wider FOV and better PC connectivity.

Aye, seemingly with the miniled display it will provide a sharper picture and even better colours.

I am getting used to the picture of the Quest 2,but if the Quest Pro is coming out soon with the improved picture and other features reported,it makes sense to wait for that even if it is dearer.

But surely the Quest Pro will be aimed for gaming also.

 

[gazzamcg]

No, it doesn't make sense. You are giving up almost a year of playing VR for a headset you know nothing about. And I can guarantee you when the next headset is due out, there will be specs and info about the headset after that which will sound better. Are you going to wait then too?

You can't judge a future headset on rumours. HTC Cosmos is an example of that. On pre released specs and rumours it sounded better in every way than all the headsets out at the time. However, it turned out to be a horrible headset.

Did you get your IPD measured like I asked you to?

its true what melmac said, theres always someting "better" about to come out. if you delayed your purchase so u could get the "next best thing" you'll never purchase anything in vr!

I understand what you are both saying,but if I want the best VR experience as possible,I think I would rather wait a while longer for it.

Don't get me wrong,I am blown away with the Quest 2 but if the Quest Pro is out in a few months as an example and is aimed at gamers, and I have no doubt of the improvements that will have over the Quest 2, I'd rather wait for that.

No Melmac,I haven't checked my IPD yet,I will do it though,but I'm lazy with things like that.

The 3 IPD setting on the Quest 2 gives me the best picture though.

 

[gazzamcg]

Do you have £2000 spare? That will buy you a Varjo Aero, you'll get no blurry'ness, reviewers say its as good as a 4k monitor. The clarity is truly next level over current hmd's. I've bought one and i'm on a waiting list for delivery.
0% balance transfer credit cards are ace

No,I don't have a 2k budget

I meant within reason,I could stretch my budget to £1000,but the headset would have to be totally worth it

 

[gazzamcg]

The first line of your post is exactly the point that me and Tyke are trying to make, there is no best VR experience possible and there won't be for years. The tech is moving way too fast and they are throwing various solutions at the wall and seeing which ones stick. And it's still in the stages that a person's head shape, facial features, IPD etc. will have as much impact on a person liking a VR headset as the tech that the headset has.

What I am trying to say is that if you find a headset that you enjoy, you should buy it and use it, rather than wait for a headset which might be a lot worse for you. Or could have a load of problems at launch. Or might be just pure crap despite the tech specs.

Just have to correct some of your misconceptions about the the Quest Pro. It's called Meta Cambria. And it's not aimed at gamers but It is compatible with Quest 2 games. Meta Cambria is aimed at the MetaVerse. Getting Facial interactions, eye movements etc into VR and also a much better mixed reality experience. It seems to be an AR/VR headset. Most of the features that the Meta Cambria will have, won't make much, if any difference, to the gaming experience. Especially PCVR games. We don't know if it will even connect to a PC, it's more than likely that it will be Standalone only. And, we don't know what Resolution it will be using. If it's a headset aimed at mainly Social VR experiences/prosumer market then it might have a lower resolution than the Quest 2.

Also, the price is going to be high. Somewhere between $1000 and $1500. I will be very surprised if it's much less than £999.

I don't care if you keep the Quest 2 or not. That's entirely up to you. All I am saying is that you shouldn't base your decision on rumours. Base it on facts, things you actually know to be true.

There are a couple advantages of keeping the Quest 2. When you get a new GPU, the Quest 2 will improve. You get to play VR games now, not in some imaginary time in the future. And lastly, all the headsets that are coming out this year seem to be on the expensive side. So, if there is a headset released that you want to upgrade to, you should be able to sell the Quest 2 for a good price. The high end headsets been released won't have any impact on the second hand sale prices of Quest 2's.

I understand totally what you are saying.

Thanks for pointing out about Cambria,so that rules that headset out of the question!

It's just I'm pretty fussy and maybe expect things to be perfect or better than they are.Its not that I am saying anything bad about the Quest 2, as I have said before I'm blown away by it.I think it's a good price for what you are getting!

I have only had it a few days after all and this is my first venture into the VR world,so im still learning what to expect.

 

[gazzamcg]

I definitely need to try more native and steam games too.

Also need to try out multiplayer action with you guys

 

[gazzamcg]

Tonights the night we normally do stuff. Around 8pm, let us know if you want to join in. If there's 5 we'll probably do something in rec room? Or maybe walkabout mini golf?

My Dad is coming round to watch the Man Utd v Aston Villa match tonight,so I probably can't make it tonight!

My username is: Jambo791874 if anyone wants to add me.

 

[gazzamcg]

have you tried half life alyx yet? if u keep the quest long enough then put it on your to-do list.
how ru feeling about going wireless? wireless hl alyx is really good!

I haven't yet,going to complete star wars squadron first,before moving to Alyx.

I have been using the fibre cable with squadron,and to be honest I haven't found the cable annoying,but you don't really need to move around with squadron.

So,I will see how it goes with the cable connected and Alyx.

 

[gazzamcg]

Have you tried the Lab yet? It's on Steam and it's free. It's a fantastic introduction into VR.

EDIT: if you liked DreamDEck, you will like the Lab.

Not yet,its on my to do list though !

 

[gazzamcg]

If you are using the cable, you should try the following to make it look better. Open open the Oculus Debug tool(ODT). It can found in the directory where you installed the Oculus software on your PC. So if you installed it on the C: drive, the ODT tool will be located in C:\Program Files\Oculus\Support\oculus-diagnostics

Run the tool and go down to "Encode Bitrate" It's value should be "0" which is the default. Try changing it to "250" hit enter and then select "restart Oculus services" from the top menu.

Just remember to set it back to "0" if you want to use Airlink.

Okay,will try that!

I don't think your to do list is long enough

It's getting longer everyday, which can only be a good thing

 

[gazzamcg]

So,I've pretty much decided I'm going to keep the Quest 2.

I think for the money it's very good value and to be honest,I don't want to spend anymore on a headset at this time!

Going to order the Bobovr M2 strap to try out.

 

[gazzamcg]

Ah nice one good decision, quest 2's hold their value well too so if/when u decide to upgrade or that you're just bored of it you'll get a decent amount back.
About the strap, do u not find the standard one comfy? I do.

I do find it comfy,but the battery life sucks.

So I'm hoping the strap will make it even more comfy with the added battery life!

 

[gazzamcg]

you might find the original comfy for a while, i did, then i changed it as it was pulling down at the front, and if i tighten it , then its too tight and gives me pains in my head, so i changed it for a few different ones, happy with how i got it now

if you looking for a new strap , i think the bobo m2 should be a very good strap along with the official elite strap if you want to spend more

but there is another alternative , that's supposed to be as good as the bobo or better or equivalent to the Elite strap
its the Kiwi Design

https://www.amazon.co.uk/KIWI-design-Upgraded-Accessories-Enhanced-Head-Strap/dp/B098JTDPQC/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2GHFPUUOKLYR4&keywords=kiwi+design+quest&qid=1641911781&sprefix=kiwi+design+quest,aps,103&sr=8-3&th=1

Yeah,I heard about the kiwi strap.

But with the Bobovr M2 it should increase the comfort aspect and with the added battery life it provides, I thought I would try it first.

 

[gazzamcg]

Make sure you order the BoboVR M2 Pro, it's the one with the battery.

It is,coming on Friday from Amazon.