Thats what I use and play through the Steam Deck on the TV, can also play on an android handheld etc. Not all games are on Geforce now however, but if you have a good connection its great value compared to cost of the hardware
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Yeah I've recently bought a gaming PC but thinking to continue my Ultimate sub as it's convenient for the TV and also good at not making my PC a jet engine on newer games
Two in a week - Framework (third-party incompetence) and now Steam (third-party). Both affect me - email, phone number etc etc.
I wonder if Metabase is involved in both as they had a 10/10 CVE recently - due to incompetence really.
I wonder if Metabase is involved in both as they had a 10/10 CVE recently - due to incompetence really.
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I meant to reply to this but didn't, sorry.
Take Indiana Jones and the Great Circle - a game which can be a challenge to even high-end PCs.
Its got its own special Steam Deck settings which can be summarised as "lower than are possible to set on PC". They look OK(ish) on the Steam Deck at 720p and for the main part it delivers 30fps+. When docked it looks appalling on any display which is higher-res as there's not enough resources to upscale. Doesn't matter how far away you sit it isn't getting better. I've been short-sighted since I was a child and it still looks crap
The Steam Machine will run it at 1080p internal resolution with medium settings and upscale* to 4k at 60fps. Looks fine when you're sitting 2 metres away.
I have no doubt it could look better with a PC. I have no desire to maintain a PC (whether Windows or Linux) in the living room and SteamOS has been as hassle-free on the deck.
*don't use FSR on this game (looks bad), XeSS is a bit better on GPU load than native TSAA but produces a different output. Lots of options to tweak if you want.
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It's your last point there for me I think, low hassle and low effort living room PC. I had most of the money put to one side in a 'steam hardware' savings pot from last year so I did go for it in the end, well aware that it isn't a good deal but it will be a neat, compact living room that will play things good enough (especially with my backlog of > 600 games in steam, most of which would probably run on a toaster with a bit of coaxing).I meant to reply to this but didn't, sorry.
Take Indiana Jones and the Great Circle - a game which can be a challenge to even high-end PCs.
Its got its own special Steam Deck settings which can be summarised as "lower than are possible to set on PC". They look OK(ish) on the Steam Deck at 720p and for the main part it delivers 30fps+. When docked it looks appalling on any display which is higher-res as there's not enough resources to upscale. Doesn't matter how far away you sit it isn't getting better. I've been short-sighted since I was a child and it still looks crap effort
The Steam Machine will run it at 1080p internal resolution with medium settings and upscale to 4k at 60fps. Looks fine when you're sitting 2 metres away.
I have no doubt it could look better with a PC. I have no desire to maintain a PC (whether Windows or Linux) in the living room and SteamOS has been as hassle-free on the deck.
I've done all the mini-PC, Steam streamer, HTPC etc etc stuff for the living room over the decades & Windows has just got more and more of a ******** over the years. I'm not dealing with it in the living room - end of story
SteamOS works well for the default overlay & you can go to desktop mode to install things like vlc for codec support to stream from a NAS etc. Haven't done it on the SM yet but the SD worked fine when I had it.
Yeah, I've played around with a few options too including the old steam link back in the day. They worked but never as well as I wanted, had the best results when I carted down a PC and hdmi'd that up to the TV for party games or something. I've got limited space on my tv unit so I'm hoping it'll fit in nicely. Don't think we'll be seeing any good deals on anything similar for the next couple of years anyway thanks to the ram crisis etc. Just feels bad having to pay that much for something with that performance, I'm sure it'll fit in nicely though (assuming they don't hold fire on EU based deliveries because of all the fun and games with data breaches..)I've done all the mini-PC, Steam streamer, HTPC etc etc stuff for the living room over the decades & Windows has just got more and more of a ******** over the years. I'm not dealing with it in the living room - end of story
SteamOS works well for the default overlay & you can go to desktop mode to install things like vlc for codec support to stream from a NAS etc. Haven't done it on the SM yet but the SD worked fine when I had it.
Sony/MS bumped their console prices and their OS's are a closed economy for games, so we are where we are.
Valve are by no means angels (20% cut) but they've done some heavy lifting with proton in terms of making games cross-platform & its trivial to add "non-steam" games to the overlay.
I guess it depends where you're starting from. No existing console investment, existing PC library going back a while then this is like a no-brainer for the living room. FSR4 support makes it even more so.
As someone that has been gaming on linux for a very long time (think tux racer etc.), proton has been a real game changer. Steam deck was great too. Not a fanboy but certainly appreciate these things!
I'm nerdy enough to have a PS5 and a switch 2 under the TV but I'm all about options and hoping the steam machine will just add to those options. Looking forward to having a new play (the 'new and shiny' gadget experience can't be overstated either
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Some of the steam machine discourse is a bit pointless
It's not like you can actually just outright buy it and get one delivered. Hell I'm still waiting on a controller I joined the waitlist on in May
I can fully understand it's appeal, but I'd rather have a mini PC with a 9060XT.
The other issue is with the Steam machine is that in 2029, how will it stack up? It's not like you can upgrade it.
They should have had the steam machine out a few years ago to be honest.
We just need Nvidia to get their act together in regards to drivers and the like and then I'll just stick SteamOS on my gaming laptop (Which is basically on par with a steam machine anyway with a 4060 in it)
It's not like you can actually just outright buy it and get one delivered. Hell I'm still waiting on a controller I joined the waitlist on in May
I can fully understand it's appeal, but I'd rather have a mini PC with a 9060XT.
The other issue is with the Steam machine is that in 2029, how will it stack up? It's not like you can upgrade it.
They should have had the steam machine out a few years ago to be honest.
We just need Nvidia to get their act together in regards to drivers and the like and then I'll just stick SteamOS on my gaming laptop (Which is basically on par with a steam machine anyway with a 4060 in it)
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Just run it on windoes with steam big picture mode, 90% of the product with 0% of the hassle.
of it makes you feel any better, I’ve had mine since the launch batch went out and I’ve not actually used it yet.
Just got my Email from Valve giving me the 3 days to purchase one which I'd completely forgot about, TBH
Not interested anymore, TBH. Terrible price to performance ratio.
Still on the list for a controller which i will get but thats still a 2027 date for availability last time I checked which seems pretty absurd.
Not interested anymore, TBH. Terrible price to performance ratio.
Still on the list for a controller which i will get but thats still a 2027 date for availability last time I checked which seems pretty absurd.
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Just means you FOMO dominates your life lol (No shade, me too, I just resisted at the time)
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Not really, it’s the middle of summer and I’ve just been outside ‘touching grass’.
Looks like it was the right call given I can’t actually buy one for when the heat finally goes and the miserable gaming weather returns.
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That's what I do. I have it set up so that it logs in to Windows automatically and then automatically launches steam big picture mode.
still happy with mine even though it was a bit of an impulse buy after a decade away from pc gaming and being so impressed with the steam deck I won early this year.
I was looking at itx builds for ages and in all honesty I’m glad I’ve not had to read another “will this case fit x.” “What will my performance/temps be like with x” “am4 or am5” “are any flex psus quiet but not cost a kidney”.
I realise it’s not for everyone especially those who want to tinker and extract every bit of value for money (like I used too and why I’m a member here
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But for me the positives of the machine are exactly what I wanted from an itx build and I don’t really do enough AAA gaming or are fussed about graphics enough (I completed cyberpunk on the deck) for the negatives to affect me.
I was looking at itx builds for ages and in all honesty I’m glad I’ve not had to read another “will this case fit x.” “What will my performance/temps be like with x” “am4 or am5” “are any flex psus quiet but not cost a kidney”.
I realise it’s not for everyone especially those who want to tinker and extract every bit of value for money (like I used too and why I’m a member here
). But for me the positives of the machine are exactly what I wanted from an itx build and I don’t really do enough AAA gaming or are fussed about graphics enough (I completed cyberpunk on the deck) for the negatives to affect me.