Realistically though you should normally only get a fixed penalty of £100 and 3 points and not end up in court if not going above 90 in a 70 limit.
Variable speed limit not illuminated but flashed anyway
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Realistically though you should normally only get a fixed penalty of £100 and 3 points and not end up in court if not going above 90 in a 70 limit.
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Wait, I thought the idea was to slam on your brakes as hard as possible as you get to the cameras, then to accelerate flat out until the next camera? I have obviously been doing it wrong.
especially if you're in the average speed zone 
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Update: I was flashed two weeks ago Saturday just gone and yet to receive anything in the post.
I've heard that if you don't hear anything within a fortnight you're in the clear. Fingers crossed!
I've heard that if you don't hear anything within a fortnight you're in the clear. Fingers crossed!
Yup, they have to send the NIP (or the identify the driver) paperwork within 2 weeks otherwise you can argue it was too far back to realistically remember.
Though thats 2 weeks to send it, not when you get it, so check the sent date carefully.
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Here's hoping nothing comes in the next few days then.
It has to be sent with the expectation that it will get to you in the two weeks, so has to account for weekends and bank holidays.
Which cars have less aerodynamic drag at 80mph than 70mph?
You can't 'reject' a NIP.
A NIP is a warning; it's an advisory and requires no action on the part of the recipient. It requires no response, acceptance or challenge, it is purely, exactly as it name says, a notice.
However normally annexed to / combined with the NIP, is a request for driver details pursuant to s.172 Road Traffic Act 1988.
That is a completely separate form legally wise, and this DOES require action on the part of the recipient; indeed, an offence is committed if the request is ignored, or returned incomplete, unsigned*, without driver nominated, etc.
Moreover and very often missed, is that even if the NIP is defective (through late service, such as past the 14 day limit for instance, or incorrectly filled out etc), then this does not automatically absolve the recipient of complying with a valid s.172 request and providing the details of the driver within 28 days of its receipt, that section of the form Has no LIMITS ON TIME FOR SERVING.
An often made mistake is thinking that the two, an NIP & a Request for driver details, are one in the same, they are not, they are two separate documents.
A NIP is a warning; it's an advisory and requires no action on the part of the recipient. It requires no response, acceptance or challenge, it is purely, exactly as it name says, a notice.
However normally annexed to / combined with the NIP, is a request for driver details pursuant to s.172 Road Traffic Act 1988.
That is a completely separate form legally wise, and this DOES require action on the part of the recipient; indeed, an offence is committed if the request is ignored, or returned incomplete, unsigned*, without driver nominated, etc.
Moreover and very often missed, is that even if the NIP is defective (through late service, such as past the 14 day limit for instance, or incorrectly filled out etc), then this does not automatically absolve the recipient of complying with a valid s.172 request and providing the details of the driver within 28 days of its receipt, that section of the form Has no LIMITS ON TIME FOR SERVING.
An often made mistake is thinking that the two, an NIP & a Request for driver details, are one in the same, they are not, they are two separate documents.
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None, but there could be rare scenarios in a car with a big engine and tall gearing that operates better at 80mph than 70mph