Vertical Sync & The 360

dokko · 18 Feb 2007 at 16:49

dirtydog said:
The display device cannot force vsync; that is up to the console itself.

So its a console issue?

Its unsatisfactory IMO and M$ needs to sort it out asap

skullman · 18 Feb 2007 at 16:51

dokko said:
So its a console issue?

Its unsatisfactory IMO and M$ needs to sort it out asap

I think its more up to the game developers to put a stop to it. Theres plenty of games out there on the 360 that dont suffer from this.

dirtydog · 18 Feb 2007 at 17:08

Yeah I don't think it is a console issue per se, but a software issue which is the responsibility and fault of game developers. All MS could do is give them a kick up the backside not to release sub-standard games.

ic1male · 18 Feb 2007 at 17:30

So is this something that only affects PAL versions of the 360 - something to do with the 50Hz PAL vs LCD 60Hz mismatch? Do NTSC consoles/games have tearing, too?

dokko · 18 Feb 2007 at 17:36

ic1male said:
So is this something that only affects PAL versions of the 360 - something to do with the 50Hz PAL vs LCD 60Hz mismatch? Do NTSC consoles/games have tearing, too?

Ive had the LCD in 50 & 60 mode, both tear.

I've had it on a 100 crt, it still tears.

DA is supposed to be one of the worst for this, i think UBISOFT or whoever made it should refund everyone whose having to put up with the gash graphics on their substandard product.

:mad:

mmj_uk · 18 Feb 2007 at 18:16

HangTime said:
Funnily enough if you are getting tearing this is actually a 'good thing' in the sense that it means your framerate is running at a very similar level to your screen refresh - i.e. your console is churning out ~50fps

No it's not good, it means the developers were lazy and rather than optimizing the game to have a consistent frame-rate they rushed it out instead with the frame-rate all over the place.

Unforgivable on consoles imo.

trojan698 · 18 Feb 2007 at 18:36

dokko said:
Aye, Double Agent is terrible, and the Dead Rising demo i have is just unplayable, really put me off the game.

So basically have i sampled the worst or are more games as bad as this?

I have to say I havent noticed any tearing on the dead rising demo at all!

TheMagicPirate · 18 Feb 2007 at 18:44

Any chance someone could post a pic of this tearing thing because I'm not sure I even get it? (or more likely just never noticed it)

dirtydog · 18 Feb 2007 at 18:52

It isn't something you can take a picture of, you have to see it in the flesh.

Kreeeee · 18 Feb 2007 at 18:59

dirtydog said:
It isn't something you can take a picture of, you have to see it in the flesh.

Yes you can.

http://xbox360.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/52351/VSync_qjgenth.jpg

dirtydog · 18 Feb 2007 at 19:02

Heh, I knew someone would say that

Okay, a picture is technically possible, but to really know what we're on about, it is best to see it happen 'live' I think.

Kreeeee · 18 Feb 2007 at 19:11

dirtydog said:
Heh, I knew someone would say that Okay, a picture is technically possible, but to really know what we're on about, it is best to see it happen 'live' I think.

Fair point

AS_Dodger · 18 Feb 2007 at 20:00

Kreeeee said:
Yes you can.

http://xbox360.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/52351/VSync_qjgenth.jpg

I can honestly say I've never noticed anything remotely resembling that on either the Dead Rising or Lost Planet demos. I'm only on the first mish on SCDA so can't comment on that.

esoteric · 18 Feb 2007 at 23:01

Im running via scart and have 0 problems, but as im using a TV I have poor quality for HD games