Vista Beta 2 Goes Public Today

csmager · 8 Jun 2006 at 18:46

Gimpymoo said:
Anyone know which SKU this is?

I know 6 pages is a lot to read, but it does say in the thread that it's Ultimate Edition. It also says that on the MS website when you sign up to get your product key.

csmager · 9 Jun 2006 at 00:15

Energize said:
It uses loads of memory about 750MB without anything open, seems slower in response than xp, and of course its pretty bad for gaming because of all the memory it uses. Looks nice though. The new system doesnt really seem that different from the old one.

The memory manager has actually been improved - it uses all memory available. On a 512Mb RAM machine, it will use near as damn it all 512. On 2Gb, it will use nearly all 2Gb. This is the way Linux & other OS's all use memory.

csmager · 9 Jun 2006 at 00:16

Energize said:
Well with the internet not working I cant do much atm, also I should warn you, it screws up your other windows install even if you do dual boot.

Sholuldn't touch your other installs. Hasn't on any PC I installed on.

csmager · 9 Jun 2006 at 09:56

Energize said:
Yeah its pretty much useless atm, its much slower than xp, loads of software wont work on it, there are loads of driver problems and it uses stupid amounts of memory.

On the contrary, I've been using it for the last two weeks. I've noticed no real difference in speed between Vista and XP, all of the software I want/need to use works fine and all my hardware is supported.

Then again, I'm not a gamer.

csmager · 9 Jun 2006 at 11:36

KASM said:
kb shortcut is windows key+r

And you can add it to the start menu by going to Taskbar and Start Menu Properties, same as in XP.

csmager · 9 Jun 2006 at 12:52

Creative Soundcards are a problem in Vista, and have been for a good long while. Just take a look round various forums - it's nothing new. The latest drivers they produced are hit 'n' miss on 32-bit, and if they work you get stereo only. If you've got x64 installed, forget it.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with MS, it's just laziness on the part of Creative.

csmager · 9 Jun 2006 at 13:11

split said:
Maybe Creative are working on some for this build.

They're for a much older build - 5321. This is 5384.4, so those drivers have been around a while.

Based on peoples experiences with those drivers, 32-bit's hit 'n' miss, and 64-bit doesn't work at all.

csmager · 9 Jun 2006 at 13:17

Datamonkey said:
Having installed office 2007 beta, im trying to put my pst and such back in its usual place.

I'd abandon putting it back. Create a new PST, and just import all your emails etc from the old PST.

Should work.

csmager · 9 Jun 2006 at 13:29

Datamonkey said:
I dont like being locked out of stuff when i am supposedly and "Administrator" on my own machine lol if you know what i mean

Have you disabled UAP? It that doesn't solve it, I'm out of ideas. Google might throw up some more.

csmager · 9 Jun 2006 at 14:02

Energize said:
Ive never had a driver problem with 32-bit using creative cards.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you were just complaining that your Audigy 4 doesn't work. Either you're using 32-bit and it plain doesn't work, or you're using 64-bit, in which case you won't've tried 32-bit.... unless you managed to download and install both versions.

And you can't really say you've 'never' had a problem when you've only installed 1 build on 1 pc.

csmager · 11 Jun 2006 at 15:35

xyphic said:
Turns out that NOD32 doesn't work with Vista yet, I tried it and it causes a couple of services to go crazy and use up 100% of CPU time which slows everything down. But Avast does work, so no real problems there. Haven't tried much else yet, other than Opera. I *have* installed the beta for Office 2007 and again, as with Vista, the UI improvements are noticeable, though will also take some getting used to.

NOD32's fine if IMON is disabled.

csmager · 11 Jun 2006 at 15:37

Kerplunk said:
Can anyone help me here, just installed Vista Beta and I cant seem to get my Internet working, with an XP build it detects it automatically, no drivers.

You need Network Card drivers - check Device Manager or Network Center to see if the NIC is installed. Try Windows Update or your motherboard manufacturer (if onboard) or card manufacturer for drivers if it's not installed.

csmager · 11 Jun 2006 at 15:42

Kerplunk said:
Says Disconnected.

And it is in Device Manager...

Open a command prompt and run ipconfig. If it says 'Media Disconnected' and the cable's in and the drivers are installed, then it sounds like dodgy drivers.

csmager · 11 Jun 2006 at 16:02

Kerplunk said:
Thanks, worked a treat.

Shouldn't have done anything at all. ipconfig just lists the current network configuration!

csmager · 11 Jun 2006 at 16:17

Eva01 said:
Right just installed beta 2 onto my pc but the resolution wont go above 1024x768 anyone know why?

The obvious place to start would be Graphics Drivers... what card, what drivers atm?

csmager · 11 Jun 2006 at 16:34

Jimbo said:
I only got 1 key, but hey its a free os.

But you can go through the signup process again and get another. You're allowed a maximum of 2.

csmager · 11 Jun 2006 at 17:28

Kerplunk said:
How can I allow it to auto boot XP or Previous OS ?

The same way as in XP. Go to the 'System' control panel, click 'Advanced System Settings'. Click 'Settings' next to Startup and Recovery, and chose your OS and timeout settings.

csmager · 11 Jun 2006 at 17:28

Blackhorse said:
It said on the email i got the key would work for up to a max of 10 comps

And it will. You're allowed a maximum of 2 keys though.

csmager · 11 Jun 2006 at 17:53

Concorde Rules said:
Anyone with the x64 download confirm its 8gb+?

WTF, why? How can a system be so bloated, thats 10% of my raptor gone and a 8Gb i-ram completely useless.

It isn't finished yet, for starters. But for your information, the vast proportion of space is taken up by C:\windows\system32\drivers (~2.4Gb in x86, much more in x64, I suspect), and another ~3Gb in C:\windows\winsxs - containing just about every MS dll.

MS have a 4.7Gb DVD they're able to fill, so they're going to give you as much as they can in terms of drivers and the like - something they couldn't do when limited to a CD. Hard disc space is cheap, and needing 15Gb is hardly a huge amount. The next step is to use Hybrid Hard Discs, no something quite so volatile as the i-Drive. Hybrids marry flash memory and existing disc technology to allow much greater speeds.

csmager · 11 Jun 2006 at 20:57

Blackhorse said:
Found this hope it helps

http://us.creative.com/support/down...=&driverlang=1033&OS=26&drivertype=0&x=15&y=8

Drivers for Vista Audigy 2 family

Posted and talked about a few pages back - they're old (Nov 05), and are very hit and miss. They're worth a go, but not actually a lot of use in many cases.