VISTA is on its way!!

MarcLister said:
So I can get Vista Home Premium x64 OEM for £78.71?! :eek:What is the catch? I have to buy some hardware?:confused:

it can only be used on 1 system and if you change mobo you need a new key to activate it.

same as XP OEM
 
MarcLister said:
So I can get Vista Home Premium x64 OEM for £78.71?! :eek:What is the catch? I have to buy some hardware?:confused:

Well your supposed too. ;)

Maybe treat yourself to a nice new shiny mouse or something. :D
 
Vista uses over a GB of memory with just a browser and a few other bits and bobs open so I would certainly say 2GB is a bare minimum for a gamer and 4GB if you want to run the latest/upcoming games with high settings etc.
 
PhilthyPhil said:
Vista uses over a GB of memory with just a browser and a few other bits and bobs open so I would certainly say 2GB is a bare minimum for a gamer and 4GB if you want to run the latest/upcoming games with high settings etc.

My MCE runs at 1GB used on practically idle with 57 processes at start-up. I don't think I will notice much difference then. :p
 
no_1_dave said:
The amount people upgrade now days it would be pointless getting OEM. I would definitely need the retail version :rolleyes:

Exactly, if you think you will be upgrading your PC (or any major part of it i.e mobo) in the next 5 years more than once, than retail is worth it.
 
It's unfair to compare Vista's stock memory consumption to XP's though. They changed some pretty fundamental stuff in the memory manager for Vista. It now has a bit of a fetish for keeping as much stuff in main memory as possible. 2000 and XP were quite conservative, always preparing for the worst, by keeping a fair chunk of main memory free when possible.

Vista likes to precache and postcache just about everything - just in case it is needed.

When you load up a demanding multimedia application such as a game though the memory manager switches mode and enters a conservative mode like what XP used.
 
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NathanE said:
It's unfair to compare Vista's stock memory consumption to XP's though. They changed some pretty fundamental stuff in the memory manager for Vista. It now has a bit of a fetish for keeping as much stuff in main memory as possible. 2000 and XP were quite conservative, always preparing for the worst, by keeping a fair chunk of main memory free.

Vista likes to precache and postcache just about everything - just in case it is needed.

When you load up a demanding multimedia application such as a game though the memory manager switches mode and enters a conservative mode like what XP used.

Does it have any other features like that, which can be used for gamming I mean?
 
OzyOly said:
Does it have any other features like that, which can be used for gamming I mean?
Loads of optimisations have been made all over the place. I'm sure there'll be a whole raft of registry tweaks for Vista just like there were for XP - but as always I'd be extremely wary of the so-called "performance tweaks". Microsoft has optimised Vista to the best of their current ability within the allowed timeframe. If there was some registry setting that really did improve performance a lot then they would have enabled such a setting by default.

The memory manager in Vista switches between modes automatically depending on certain conditions it monitors.
 
Ronaldo said:
it can only be used on 1 system and if you change mobo you need a new key to activate it.

same as XP OEM
Will only be using it on one system and won't be upgrading to C2D's for a while. I need to find some money first.

Gibbo said:
Well your supposed too. ;)

Maybe treat yourself to a nice new shiny mouse or something. :D
So would the order be cancelled if I didn't?;)

What hardware counts? Because I might be in the market for a wired mouse for my Linux box. I 'spose the Corsair Vista flash drives don't count?
 
The amount people upgrade now days it would be pointless getting OEM. I would definitely need the retail version

Couldnt agree more! ive been having a quick look at vista and the diffrent packages they offer, ulimate is what everyone wants i guess but home pre does everything i want. i do not use my PC for business, so that side of ultimate i wouldnt use. remote desktop again i wouldnt use. so vista home premium retail looks like the best option for me. there will be other software that will offer the extra's in ultimate. plus you can always upgrade if you did need the benifits of ultimate.
 
tomanders91 said:
What will i need with an E6300, 64bit?

And also whats the difference between home basic and premium.

Do u think i should wait to order on jan 31st and get one of these? or just get xp with my new system now? Will games and programs like firefox work with vista?

Firefox works. not all games work yet, but the main fault is no decent video drivers. Game developers will most likely release a patch for the games that don't.

Lol, nearly a whole (non noob) page gone. Teaches me not to refresh. :o
 
Hmm Ultimate OEM is very tempting, but 32 or 64 bit?

I assume 32 bit XP programs will work perfectly and the added mem usage + 64 bit performance.

Thing is you can buy 32 and 64 for less than Retail :rolleyes:
 
no_1_dave said:
The amount people upgrade now days it would be pointless getting OEM. I would definitely need the retail version :rolleyes:

Yes but if you call MS after you upgrade your PC and request an activation key, they always give you one.
 
Hmm Ultimate OEM is very tempting, but 32 or 64 bit?

I assume 32 bit XP programs will work perfectly and the added mem usage + 64 bit performance.

Thing is you can buy 32 and 64 for less than Retail


but you might aswell buy the retail and have both 32 - 64 and be able to upgrade as often as you like!
 
vapor matt said:
Couldnt agree more! ive been having a quick look at vista and the diffrent packages they offer, ulimate is what everyone wants i guess but home pre does everything i want. i do not use my PC for business, so that side of ultimate i wouldnt use. remote desktop again i wouldnt use. so vista home premium retail looks like the best option for me. there will be other software that will offer the extra's in ultimate. plus you can always upgrade if you did need the benifits of ultimate.

Yes but if you give someone the choice between something called 'home premium' and 'ultimate' and there was £100 difference between them, people would pay that extra £100 even though they don't need the features.

To be honest I was almost going to pay the extra £100. It's just that word 'ultimate' it draws you in.
 
Yes but if you call MS after you upgrade your PC and request an activation key, they always give you one.

They might have done with XP but the OEM agreement has been changed and microsoft will be more strict with vista than XP, so you might have to buy another lincense, which to be fair is why microsoft changed the license agreement after the lessons with XP
 
Gibbo said:
Well your supposed too. ;)

Maybe treat yourself to a nice new shiny mouse or something. :D

Not quite. The clause whaich states non-peripheral hardware was changed.

A system builder must distribute the OEM licence with a fully assembled system.

Burnsy
 
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