Vista or XP

Hxc said:
Dual boot if you play games. I run a stripped to the core version of XP (install disc came in at about 180mb) which I run all my games (save UT) in, and vista for day to day work
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Agreed.. Eventually you're likely to find you just don't need to boot back into XP so often..

Alternatively if cash is tight and you don't fancy playing with Vista, or don't need anything it offers stick with XP for another year or two until it offers something you decide makes it worth switching. Games becoming DX10 only or DX10 versions of games being faster/better, which lets face it won't be for a while yet, could be a good example.
 
Was just going to try Vista, but just wanting some expert advice first.

Will it run with 3000+barton, 2gig ram, 6600gt, not wanting it to run like crap.

Also what version is best to install, price ain't an issue! ;)
 
begbo said:
Was just going to try Vista, but just wanting some expert advice first.

Will it run with 3000+barton, 2gig ram, 6600gt, not wanting it to run like crap.

Also what version is best to install, price ain't an issue! ;)
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If money is no object, then Ultimate x86 is the one to go for as it has everything.

Regarding whether your system will be fast enough, my system is as below in my signature and Vista runs faster than XP did. Office 2007 is much quicker and it generally feels much more responsive. Boot time is about the same. I can't explain why, but it's more than adequate and your machine is faster than mine.
 
Robbie G said:
If money is no object, then Ultimate x86 is the one to go for as it has everything.

Regarding whether your system will be fast enough, my system is as below in my signature and Vista runs faster than XP did. Office 2007 is much quicker and it generally feels much more responsive. Boot time is about the same. I can't explain why, but it's more than adequate and your machine is faster than mine.
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'Your milage may vary' should inevitably be tagged to everything... I had an Athlon XP 2400+ that ran Vista better than an Athlon64 3500+ system - probably down to chipsets and their drivers. Support will be improving all the time, though.

Ultimate does have everything, but look into Home Premium too. Most of the extra features in Ultimate are not needed by most, and the price difference can often not be justified.
 
Sinque said:
XP. Tried Vista yesterday and un-installed within a few hours.
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Same here, apart from windows mail and a few asthaetic changes it really doesn't seem any improvement on XP, my audio sounded extremely tinny in games, gaming performance didn't seem as good and i had a few strange errors.

I will stick with XP for the time being, lets face it anyone using Vista before the first service pack is pretty much just a beta tester, as was the case with XP and all the other OS's previously.
 
Athanor said:
You don't have to upgrade at all. You have your copy of XP and can continue to use it forever should you so choose. Of course MS is stopping selling XP next year, why would they continue to sell an old product for more than a year after it's been replaced by a new one. Can you still specify System 7 on a new Mac? Brand new Sierra from a Ford dealer? Time and technology changes and moves on, it's not an evil conspiricy... Honest...
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Athanor, the majority of people don't build their own computers and so windows comes pre installed by the OEM manufacturer. When they come to upgrade their computers they will not have a choice in the matter.

I could not use XP forever any more than I can use windows 98 forever as eventually driver support will force you to upgrade.

I agree time and technology moves on but that doesn't always been what you move onto is better than what you had previously.
 
Been running Ultimate for 2 odd months and I came back to XP pro yesterday, Spec in sig, it felt sluggish and things just didn't seem to work all the time every time..!!

XP is great my 3Dmark06 went from 4650 to 5871 and the whole pc just feels more responsive ingame and in windows!!

I'm not the type of person to shun an OS without trying it, I will be back to Vista when a service pack comes out and/or I get a new DX10 card for my rig!!! For what I need and do on my pc at home Vista just doesn't bring anything new to me the XP didn't do great or in some cases better before!

:)
 
Who spends their cash on an OS and then isn't even willing to run it for a week - just to give it the benefit of the doubt? :confused: A few people here it seems :p
 
Sinque said:
XP. Tried Vista yesterday and un-installed within a few hours.
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Hi Sinque

Please can you let people know why you did the above so that your post is relatively useful rather than completely the opposite? Thanks in advance :)
 
Robbie G said:
Hi Sinque

Please can you let people know why you did the above so that your post is relatively useful rather than completely the opposite? Thanks in advance :)
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I'm with Sinque.

I installed Vista months back and then purged the partition within an hour.

No comment necessary.
 
the-void said:
Athanor, the majority of people don't build their own computers and so windows comes pre installed by the OEM manufacturer. When they come to upgrade their computers they will not have a choice in the matter.

I could not use XP forever any more than I can use windows 98 forever as eventually driver support will force you to upgrade.

I agree time and technology moves on but that doesn't always been what you move onto is better than what you had previously.
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You can still run your copy of XP on the PC you bought it for. Even if it's OEM you can substantialy upgrade that machine so there's no reason for you to not run XP for the forseeable future if you wanted to.

If you have XP retail you just install it on your new PC. MS don't force you to do anything, you make your own choices, if you want to stick with XP forever buy a retail upgrade copy and it's yours to install on new machinces forever.

Yes driver support will runout eventually, but that's an issue for the hardware manuafacturers that write the drivers, not MS.

The whole point is you make it look as if MS are evil with a hidden agenda to force people to do something they don't want to do. MS are a company that has a new product that replaces a previous one, the same as almost every production/manufacturing company in the world from haidryers to satellites.

If you chose to update hardware then eventually you'll have to update the OS to go with it, this is true of Apple and Open source as well. You can't buy a Mac with system 7 on it any more, nor can you buy a brand new 1990 model TV off the shelf.

Yes you have a choice, no it's not a conspiricy by an evil empire, yes it's basic economics and yes, almost every single company (or person that produces "stuff") does exactly the same thing. To continualy single out MS as the bad guys forcing an unwilling world to use Vista against it's wishes is naive.

XP can be bought for at least a year after it was replaced by Vista and will be supported until 2014 at least. I'd suggest MS commitment to support of a 5 year old OS far exceeds what you get with almost any other product - especially once a replacement is released.
 
I have a friend who teaches internet firewall security and i asked him has he put vista on his pc and the reply i got was "i dont want that virus on my pc" haha thought it rather funney.


Bill and his storm troopers :D
 
I tried Vista and am now back to XP Pro SP2.

In my experience the new OS is far from being mature (expected), with nothing but a simple aesthetic makeover and a few extra selling points a few XP mods could accomplish anyway. Given i'm a simple gamer who doesn't weigh the extra feautres Vista has to offer over the compatibility issues current games have with Vista drivers, I find myself hard pressed going back to Vista until evidence suggests a significant amount of end users show a considerable improvement has been made in driver support.
 
I lasted three days on vista before it started doing my head in, looks nice for about an hour then I just got tired of it, it definitly did'nt feel as responisive as XP and after a while all the fancy effects just got on my nerves and I ended up switching them all off and once they where off what did I find, oooo, an unstable look-a-like of XP with crap driver support and poor gaming performance, what a crock, I just don't see the point in this OS at all what so ever, 98se to XP yes there was issues at in the beginning but for me personaly XP right from the start has been very stable and now it's pretty much rock solid, when DX10 games do start appearing then I reinstall it on a seperate partition and only boot it to play those games.
 
the-void said:
Come on Gareth, just because you don't happen to agree with the viewpoint that "Vista is crap" doesn't mean that people shouldn't be allowed to say it or have to go silently go back to XP.

Whilst your quite vocal in your opinion for Vista I feel you should allow others to be the same, even if you don't agree with their opinion. This is after all a discussion forum about XP vs Vista.

MS makes money by people upgrading to the latest and greatest, so its hardly likely to say "you don't have to upgrade" is it? I imagine that all the money MS has spent on marketing Vista is their way of saying "you must upgrade". And as of next year MS are stopping selling XP all together,
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microsoft isn't forceing u to upgrade.. i know someone that is still on windows 98.

the-void said:
so what choice do you have then?
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theres many choices. if a person don't like vista MS isn't saying u must continue to use it.. u can go back to xp and u could use that forever even windows 98...

when MS does stop selling XP it doesn't mean a person still can't use it or buy it. i know a few places thats still sells windows 98.
 
the-void said:
Athanor, the majority of people don't build their own computers and so windows comes pre installed by the OEM manufacturer. When they come to upgrade their computers they will not have a choice in the matter.

I could not use XP forever any more than I can use windows 98 forever as eventually driver support will force you to upgrade.

I agree time and technology moves on but that doesn't always been what you move onto is better than what you had previously.
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The good thing is, if you buy XP retail, you can keep it forever and ever and install it on as many PC's as you like (one at a time) so, if you buy a new pc with Vista, simply install your retail xp.

While I agree in principle with products changing, not being able to buy a new Sierra, but you can still buy parts for it. I dont think there are any service packs tho, service contracts maybe. A car is a car and an OS is an OS, chalk and cheese.

Anyway I am using Vista, but I am not a lover of it exactly, nor a hater, it has its issues as does XP. An awful lot is down to the hardware it is running on. Older chipsets seem not to like it very much, the best support I have found so far is from VIA and Realtek. Old nforce 3 boards are not supported, no new drivers there. ULI are rubbish (I tired a board at the weekend, nasty Asrock). I have tried three boards with Vista, all 939 and AGP (yes I know are older, but my GPU and CPU are not!) and the best board I have found is the Abit av8 3rd eye. It has this cool thingy which tells you your room temp! and you can overclock during gaming!
 
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