Vista- PC gamings saving grace or the beginning of the end?
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Vista Looks to be very interesting, there were many problems in development and the whole project was scrapped and redesigned (scaled down) half way through. To be fair to looks to be more of a progressive upgrade to XP rather than a change in mindset from Microsoft. DirectX 10 looks awesome and being able to use the GPU for the GUI is a reason for me to upgrade alone. Of course if Apple released OSX for PC I would get that too but it seems that's just a dream at the moment. 
Unless developers STOP developing Console games then porting to the PC as an after thought.. PC gaming will come to an end due to low sales in the not too distant future.
Whatever happened to the days when PC gaming was Original?
Whatever happened to the days when PC gaming was Original?
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HangTime said:
A good indication is the siting of games in retail stores.
You noticed that many retailers have the PC games at the back of the store or anywhere else that leaves room for PS2 games etc. to be at the front?
Using my analogy again, I saw the same thing happen when the good old Amiga started to wain as a gaming platform.
Its games slowly moved to less prominent positions in stores.
There is another similarity too. The Amiga was initially *the* platform that all the best games premiered on. Slowly it changed to the best games coming out on the PC and either being ported to the Amiga or simply never happening at all.
Sound a little familiar?
As I said, I don't think PC gaming will die anytime soon but how long will it be a premier platform for new, innovative games?
Its not suprising really when you need to spend £400 on a graphics card at least every 2 years a lot of people have just moved to consoles.
Vista and DX10 is just another perfect marketing scam forcing us to migrate and upgrade.
Ill never move to consol gaming no matter what happens in the future. Id rather just stop playing
Vista and DX10 is just another perfect marketing scam forcing us to migrate and upgrade.
Ill never move to consol gaming no matter what happens in the future. Id rather just stop playing
Consoles sell many more games than PC but I think it's been this way for many years. Maybe we will see an even further decline in PC game sales but I think the PC will always be around for games that push boundaries, both technological and creative.HangTime said:
Who actually buys PC games from shops nowadays anyway? Only if you're completely desperate to have something on day of release. You can typically get them on t'Internet for £10 cheaper.
Interestingly, having a quick glance at Gamespot's upcoming video hours for E3, a lot of them are for PC-based games! There's plenty of stuff on the horizon - Rise of Legends, Hellgate: London, Crysis, Unreal Tournament 2007, Battlefield 2142, Company of Heroes, Warhammer: Mark of Chaos, Neverwinter Nights 2, Command and Conquer 3. Phew!
Interestingly, having a quick glance at Gamespot's upcoming video hours for E3, a lot of them are for PC-based games! There's plenty of stuff on the horizon - Rise of Legends, Hellgate: London, Crysis, Unreal Tournament 2007, Battlefield 2142, Company of Heroes, Warhammer: Mark of Chaos, Neverwinter Nights 2, Command and Conquer 3. Phew!
G.O.A.T said:Vista Looks to be very interesting, there were many problems in development and the whole project was scrapped and redesigned (scaled down) half way through. To be fair to looks to be more of a progressive upgrade to XP rather than a change in mindset from Microsoft. DirectX 10 looks awesome and being able to use the GPU for the GUI is a reason for me to upgrade alone. Of course if Apple released OSX for PC I would get that too but it seems that's just a dream at the moment.
if developers relesed games for linux/unix then they would probably work on OSX (same core features) but its not gonna happen, only ones I know of are Q3 and iirc one of the UT games
G.O.A.T said:Of course if Apple released OSX for PC I would get that too but it seems that's just a dream at the moment.
I think OS X is overrated. I had a Power Mac for a year and found that my productivity went down compared to XP on a PC. Hence I swapped back. But that's a tale for another time. No flame starting intended here.
For as long as I can remember, PC games have been at the back of stores and other hard to reach places. Nothing has changed as you are making out...UOcUK Poopscoop said:
PC gaming, really, has always been a bit of a niché market. The vast array of input devices (steering wheels, joysticks, game pads, foot pedals, the mouse and etc) allow many genre's of games to exist that wouldn't have come about if there were only consoles in this world.
Vista will not end it but the stupid prices of gfx cards & greed of game companies will.
You can now get an Xbox360 for less than the price of a high end gfx card. The average person does not care if the PC is way better when his console costs less and looks/plays more or less the same.
DX9 + HDR games already look better than Xbox360 but due to the way the PC games market is declining you get fewer titles which make proper use of it so eventually you get to the point where less games get developed so the PC games market declines even more etc etc.
Only way this is going to change is if more DX9 PC games get made as even now there are not enough quality titles to justify a £300-400 investment in a top gfx card.
I for one refuse to buy a DX10 card + Vista when I can get an Xbox360 + LCD-TV for nearly the same price.
You can now get an Xbox360 for less than the price of a high end gfx card. The average person does not care if the PC is way better when his console costs less and looks/plays more or less the same.
DX9 + HDR games already look better than Xbox360 but due to the way the PC games market is declining you get fewer titles which make proper use of it so eventually you get to the point where less games get developed so the PC games market declines even more etc etc.
Only way this is going to change is if more DX9 PC games get made as even now there are not enough quality titles to justify a £300-400 investment in a top gfx card.
I for one refuse to buy a DX10 card + Vista when I can get an Xbox360 + LCD-TV for nearly the same price.
AWPC said:
Says he who has the following PC spec:-
P4 670J 3.8Ghz Stock, Asus P5WD2Premium, XFX 7800GTX512, 2GB DDR2-533 @3:4, Dell 2405FPW, SB Audigy2, Altec Lansing THX 2.1, NEC 3520A, Pioneer DVR108, Zalman 9500LED HSF, Antec Phantom500 PSU, 380GB HD
And your point is?ic1male said:Says he who has the following PC spec:-
P4 670J 3.8Ghz Stock, Asus P5WD2Premium, XFX 7800GTX512, 2GB DDR2-533 @3:4, Dell 2405FPW, SB Audigy2, Altec Lansing THX 2.1, NEC 3520A, Pioneer DVR108, Zalman 9500LED HSF, Antec Phantom500 PSU, 380GB HD