Vote on smoking ban in public places

singist said:
At last; someone who the law was brought in for; not the whining non smoking public but the people who work in pubs etc.
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I think you'll find this law was bought in for the benefit of everyone and those "whining non smoking public" you talk of will also appreciate not smelling and decreasing the risk of cancer through passive smoking.
 
james.miller said:
As for it being carcinogenic, well that's really irrelivant. if your in public, cars will do you more damage than somebody smoking, ulness your standing next to them sucking up their fumes.
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Whats your source for that statistic?
 
i think perosnal this countrie is ****** if i choose to smoke i smoke if i choose to drink i drink but i wont be going out to pubs if i cant do both
and i feel that pubs will soon lose a lot of customers and there profits will dwindle to nothing
there my 2pence worth

Disguise your swearing better when giving it in future.

Otacon
 
woohoo! they have this ban in ireland, and its ace! no more cig smoke making my clothes ming! no more nasty smoke smell when im in the pub...

as to those who dont like the ban and copmplain about "civil liberties"....non smokers have the right not to breathe your second hand smoke. Second hand smoke has been shown to cause lung cancer ( not to mention a host of other respiritory problems) in non smokers. i dont think you have the right to subject people to a much higher risk of getting lung cancer, just because going outside is "inconvenient". lung cancer is a damn site more inconvenient than going outside imo...

and what about the people who work in pubs/clubs? why should they have to work in a nasty smoky environment, and be subjected to the risks that come with passive smoking because you are too lazy to go outside?


TG
 
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Nix said:
And you don't think that this whole time non-smokers have been inconvenienced by your fellow smokers? Come off it.
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I don't remember saying (or implying) that at any point in this thread :confused:

If you had paid attention to my previous posts you would know what my argument is.

I will repeat it one last time.

Bigstan said:
My two main points in this and the many other previous threads in SC on the same subject have been:

1. An outright ban is unnecessary and ill thought out. A compromise could easily have been reached which would have suited all concerned.

2. The vast majority of smokers would have been happy to support legislation if a compromise had been reached. The main reason that this has not happened is because the non-smoking lobby have insisted on an outright ban from the onset and because they hold the majority, that is what will happen. If the non-smokers had been less selfish and been prepared to reach a compromise then everybody could have been accomodated and there would have been much less ill-feeling.
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I have seen no evidence that many non-smokers are willing to consider compromise. There is no point of one side in an argument being willing to compromise if the other is unwilling to even listen so I will take no further part in this discussion unless someone from the non-smoking side shows that they are at least willing to listen to what I'm saying (instead of trying to pick holes in parts of my posts whilst ignoring other parts as it suits them).

Stan :)
 
But there is a compromise, its not illegal, you simply can't smoke in an enclosed public place. No compromise would have been that you couldn't smoke anywhere but in your own home. (which hopefully will be implemented in a few years time)

HEADRAT
 
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HEADRAT said:
Maybe we'll also get less fag butts littering the streets even though every smoker you ever speak to always swears that they put them in the bin and don't flick them out of cars.

Obviously just another part of the conspiracy against smokers, there is a secret group littering the streets with fag butts.

HEADRAT
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See less fag butts on the street due to the ban?

Surely you'll see more because now smokers in bars and pubs will go outside to smoke.

just an observation.
 
Im glad this ban is going into place. I hate going in to pubs and your eyes are watering because there is soo much smoke. It's disgusting. Waste of money and no point whatsoever.
 
Stupid .. bloody stupid

I am speaking from an Ex Smoker's point of view ... been clean for just over a year now

I agree with the ban where food is served ( and I mean proper food, not just crisps or nuts :p ) even as a smoker I disliked anyone smoking whilst I was eating

But it should be up to the LANDLORD/LADY to decide whether or not they want THEIR pub ( provided it does not serve food ) to be non smoking or not

Quite how the goverment can ban adults partaking in a legal activity is beyond me :confused:

Yes it will be nice I suppose to not smell of smoke when I come home from a night out but really what's the big deal .. you wash your clothes ( as you would have had to do anyway ) and also wash your hair ( which again you would have had to do anyway unless you have dreads in which case your hair is gonna stink anyway :p )

*shakes head*
 
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Fantastic news.

Why should i have to be killing myself when all i want to go out and have some fun. It'l certainly annoy a number of my friends though, but i don't care, as long as we all don't have to stink of smoke, and inhale the ghastly stuff :)

Don't swear
 
Piggymon said:
Stupid .. bloody stupid

I am speaker from an Ex Smoker's point of view ... been clean for just over a year now

I agree with the ban where food is served ( and I mean proper food, not just crisps or nuts :p ) even as a smoker I disliked anyone smoking whilst I was eating

But it should be up to the LANDLORD/LADY to decide whether or not they want THEIR pub ( provided it does not serve food ) to be non smoking or not

Quite how the goverment can ban adults partaking in a legal activity is beyond me :confused:

Yes it will be nice I suppose to not smell of smoke when I come home from a night out but really what's the big deal .. you wash your clothes ( as you would have had to do anyway ) and also wash your hair ( which again you would have had to do anyway unless you have dreads in which case your hair is gonna stink anyway :p )

*shakes head*
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You see this people? This is an example of a mature and considered response from someone who doesn't smoke.

She would be happy to be able to go to a pub/club and come home not smelling of smoke but is annoyed that it has to be at the expense of others, including a restriction of the licencee's right to run his/her business as he/she sees fit.

I knew I could rely on you :) x

Stan :)
 
Bigstan said:
You see this people? This is an example of a mature and considered response from someone who doesn't smoke.

She would be happy to be able to go to a pub/club and come home not smelling of smoke but is annoyed that it has to be at the expense of others, including a restriction of the licencee's right to run his/her business as he/she sees fit.

I knew I could rely on you :) x

Stan :)
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*HIGH FIVES STAN right in front of Rich and blows a raspberry :p* ;) :D
 
All my time in pubs is spent either gigging with my band or watching other bands.
I can honestly see my gigs getting less through this and a lot of pubs stopping bands from playing.
All my band members and their partners smoke so it looks like I'll be sitting on my own.
I've never even touched a cigarette but I've always considered it my choice to go into what is technically a smokers den.
I don't welcome this ban at all.
 
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