*** VPN Thread ***

thewanted said:
I want to get a VPN that works with the Apple TV, but am I better off getting a VPN that works on my Ubiquiti Dream Router 7 and use a policy for the ATV?
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If you only want it for Apple TV just get it for that. I don’t use a vpn currently, but the last one I used was called Safeshell which is very good.
Has an app for Apple TV, iPad e.g

Not the cheapest though.
 
beachBOYken said:
If you only want it for Apple TV just get it for that. I don’t use a vpn currently, but the last one I used was called Safeshell which is very good.
Has an app for Apple TV, iPad e.g

Not the cheapest though.
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Well it would also be useful on my personal Mac from time to time too, but I’m happy to route everything on the ATV through a VPN.
 
thewanted said:
Well it would also be useful on my personal Mac from time to time too, but I’m happy to route everything on the ATV through a VPN.
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I’ve not checked but presume safeshell works on Mac as well. Just looking in my expired subs I can resub at £49.99 for the year, think it’s more expensive now though as a new subscriber.
 
It's probably more suited to the Safety Act thread in SC than here but it was always going to be the case as there aren't any foolproof solutions for this especially given the genuine use cases for VPNs, like businesses/remote workers.
 
visibleman said:
It's probably more suited to the Safety Act thread in SC than here but it was always going to be the case as there aren't any foolproof solutions for this especially given the genuine use cases for VPNs, like businesses/remote workers.
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Businesses and remote workers aren't using the free VPNs that are built into Opera, FireFox and now Edge.

Nor the free VPN apps that are in the Apple and Google Play store that don't have meaningful age limits.

Nor the Tor browser or the Tor client that is built into Brave.

But someone finally figured out that going after multiple different browsers, both the Google and Apple stores as well as all the different VPN providers wasn’t going to end well. Given that some of the websites they have fined have basically said you can't tell us how to operate and continued as before...
 
Does anyone know of a VPN that has exit nodes in the Philippines which are not blacklisted by spotify? i.e. You can sign in to Spotify web account without it saying "sorry there's been a problem".
I've tried Nord and PIA to no avail.
 
NetMan said:
Businesses and remote workers aren't using the free VPNs that are built into Opera, FireFox and now Edge.

Nor the free VPN apps that are in the Apple and Google Play store that don't have meaningful age limits.

Nor the Tor browser or the Tor client that is built into Brave.

But someone finally figured out that going after multiple different browsers, both the Google and Apple stores as well as all the different VPN providers wasn’t going to end well.
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It would be a bit silly for a government to individually target providers, regardless of some offering legitimate business solutions, as they would essentially enroll themselves into a continuous game of 'cat and mouse'.
Rather they would legislate a blanket ban and the underlying technology - this is far from a foolproof solution but i imagine the use of hefty fines would persuade a lot of the population. But businesses wouldn't be able to business, so it's a non-starter.

Any way, that's enough derailing from me :)
 
visibleman said:
It would be a bit silly for a government to individually target providers, regardless of some offering legitimate business solutions, as they would essentially enroll themselves into a continuous game of 'cat and mouse'.
Rather they would legislate a blanket ban and the underlying technology - this is far from a foolproof solution but i imagine the use of hefty fines would persuade a lot of the population. But businesses wouldn't be able to business, so it's a non-starter.

Any way, that's enough derailing from me :)
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Hefty fines for the users? What are they going to do take the pocket money off the children that are using them? Or sue the parents if they buy a computer running Windows because the built in browser includes a VPN?

Businesses don't use free VPN's that are built into browsers they host their own, Ofcom would need to go after Google, Microsoft, Opera, Mozilla etc... and would be told where to go if they tried it.
 
You'd never catch anybody because there's no way of proving what a bunch of encrypted UDP packets (in the case of Wireguard) contained. There'd be an awful lot of interest from bodies like the EFF in funding the defence of the first person charged to set a precedent. You also couldn't word a law that made work VPNs legal while 'consumer' ones weren't - a quick rebrand job from NordVPN to explain that they were offering a security enhancement service and suddenly it's exempt. If you then try to insist that it has to be linked to an employer you rule out VPN usage to connect to an organisation people volunteer at, and the VPN sites will just make a pretend freelancer work page that people sign up to but have to be secured by their software in order to complete tasks.
 
NetMan said:
Hefty fines for the users? What are they going to do take the pocket money off the children that are using them? Or sue the parents if they buy a computer running Windows because the built in browser includes a VPN?

Businesses don't use free VPN's that are built into browsers they host their own, Ofcom would need to go after Google, Microsoft, Opera, Mozilla etc... and would be told where to go if they tried it.
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They wouldn't. Those companies would fold because the UK market is too big to ignore. Even Apple has a completely different privacy policy in China. They hand over all the data due to local laws, unlike in the UK/US for example.

All they would have to do is legislate an age check on the VPN.

This is a doddle to do on a device with parental controls and mobile because the app stores already have age checks built in. All Apple devices are age verified already; if not, they are locked into child mode, and you can't install age-restricted apps.

PC/Linux is harder, but frankly, few kids are actually using PC's for any meaningful length of time; it doesn't really matter. All the mainstream have transitioned to mobile and tablets years ago. Lots of people I know don't even have a PC at home, not a phrase I thought I would ever say 10 years ago.
 
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KIA said:
Fine here. Are the ads in Albanian or a different language?
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Still English. Will try another Albanian server the next time.

Edit: seems to block ads on home WiFi so must have been the public WiFi I was using.
 
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