VW Compensation?

SDK^ · 9 Nov 2015 at 19:42

Can I claim as the reputation of my petrol VW is tarnished by those smog polluting tractor diesels.

paradigm · 9 Nov 2015 at 19:44

The only way I can see there being any grounds for compensation, is if the proposed "fix" results in owning a vehicle that doesn't make the stated power output afterwards.

This however isn't something which has been discussed yet I don't believe.

Dav4 · 9 Nov 2015 at 20:10

Hades said:
Have you been missold TDI?

Lol

Having a quick google just then it seems some law firms normally associated with whipcash and ppi are encouraging people to enter there details on the site if they own a Vw,Audi,Skoda or Seat as they are investigating legal action against the emission scandals. :eek:

SDK^ said:
Can I claim as the reputation of my petrol VW is tarnished by those smog polluting tractor diesels.

Your 300+Bhp Golf R is probably far less harmful to other humans than these stupid low tax diesels that we keep getting brainwashed into thinking are some kind of eco friendly options with low tax

Cavallino · 9 Nov 2015 at 20:23

[TW]Fox;28793271 said:
Where has this been reported?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/volkswagen/news/fuel-consumption-and-emissions-figures-set-too-low/

[TW]Fox;28793271 said:
No car is sold with a real world achievable fuel consumption report due to our pathetic testing system.

Sure, but in this instance the claim is they're "too low" (even taking into consideration the estimates provided in the spec sheet.

Can you give me the link to the car estimation values you provided above? Thanks.

Dolph · 9 Nov 2015 at 20:30

[TW]Fox;28792992 said:
Compensation for what? Which UK tests did VW cheat their way through (ie that they'd have failed otherwise)?

It strikes me that the worst outcome for UK buyers is that they ended up with lower road tax than they otherwise would have...

And a massive depreciation hit compared to 2 months ago if you are planning or need to sell.

Edit, hadn't read the full thread. You try finding someone willing to pay book...

Cavallino · 9 Nov 2015 at 20:32

Dolph said:
And a massive depreciation hit compared to 2 months ago if you are planning or need to sell.

This is what Ive been also thinking but Im not so sure looking at the numbers atm.

Destination · 9 Nov 2015 at 20:35

[TW]Fox;28793410 said:
It's absolutely ridiculous you can spend tens of thousands on a car and have absolutely no idea what to expect economy wise without asking random owners.

Agree entirely, that whole system needs reforming, and soon.
A smart manufacturer might even propose a method of testing, and then publicise it, as real, and in ads show the BS their rivals are advertising.

[TW]Fox · 9 Nov 2015 at 20:46

Dolph said:
Edit, hadn't read the full thread. You try finding someone willing to pay book...

The Retail Transacted figure is based on actual sales. The book reports the market, it doesn't set it.

SDK^ · 9 Nov 2015 at 20:49

I think the whole used diesel market will suffer, who wants to associated with that scandal. Open the flood gates, compo for all shamed diesel owners.

Dolph · 9 Nov 2015 at 20:59

[TW]Fox;28793763 said:
The Retail Transacted figure is based on actual sales. The book reports the market, it doesn't set it.

Does it track sales volumes, and how does if handle trade ins agreed before the issue became apparent but completed after, given the potential lead time on new cars? (Not a trick question, genuinely curious)

Deadly Ferret · 10 Nov 2015 at 00:08

Have you got a VW PPI? Text 'gimme' to 87202.

eatcustard · 10 Nov 2015 at 08:56

VW new car sales are 10% down so far in the UK, so it may have a knock on, also other cars makers sales down as well.

Sorry Commie looney left paper link http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/nov/05/vw-sales-fall-uk-car-brands-drop

Firestar_3x · 10 Nov 2015 at 08:58

Well VW US are going owners 1k USD gift cards to keep them happy(ish).

tiffanys · 10 Nov 2015 at 10:31

Firestar_3x said:
Well VW US are going owners 1k USD gift cards to keep them happy(ish).

from which half is on a pre paid card and the other half to spend at the dealership. really clever tactic.

almoststew1990 · 10 Nov 2015 at 11:09

And at the same time Kia is now saying we're entering the golden age of small capacity turbo petrols, I wonder what could have made them say that :rolleyes:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34731463

I notice the car is delicately named ProCeed T-GDI ecoTurbo GT Line; it would seem people need to be fooled into thinking it is diesel.

I also notice that "with its sporty looks and handling, you might expect a big, thirsty engine under the bonnet", but actually this supposedly hot hatch makes just 118hp. Edit- It is just the body kit version, not the actual hot version.

...I can feel myself getting wound up again.

Firestar_3x · 10 Nov 2015 at 11:12

That whole article is garbage and written to be read by idiots, had a go at reading it this morning but had to stop.

Skyboat · 10 Nov 2015 at 11:39

almoststew1990 said:
And at the same time Kia is now saying we're entering the golden age of small capacity turbo petrols, I wonder what could have made them say that

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34731463

I notice the car is delicately named ProCeed T-GDI ecoTurbo GT Line; it would seem people need to be fooled into thinking it is diesel.

I also notice that "with its sporty looks and handling, you might expect a big, thirsty engine under the bonnet", but actually this supposedly hot hatch makes just 118hp. Edit- It is just the body kit version, not the actual hot version.

...I can feel myself getting wound up again.

Kia have used the GDI moniker for quite a while, it stands for Gasoline Direct Injection

pugheaven · 10 Nov 2015 at 13:20

paradigm said:
The only way I can see there being any grounds for compensation, is if the proposed "fix" results in owning a vehicle that doesn't make the stated power output afterwards.

This however isn't something which has been discussed yet I don't believe.

I was just going to post the same thing.

To fix this problem and if they HAVE to achieve the emissions they will HAVE to reduce power output I'd have thought, otherwise, they wouldn't have put the "cheat" in in the first place.

Thus, if I've bought a 150bhp tractor, and with the fix I'm noit kicking out 135bhp, sorry but that is grounds for compensation as it's not what was advertised...

Agree, most people haven't got a clue about what they're even claming for... and thus should be slapped lol... it'll turn into a farce with people wanting free money, however, this I see (if I had a VW engined car) would be grounds for being angry.

theone8181 · 10 Nov 2015 at 18:45

pugheaven said:
I was just going to post the same thing.

To fix this problem and if they HAVE to achieve the emissions they will HAVE to reduce power output I'd have thought, otherwise, they wouldn't have put the "cheat" in in the first place.

Thus, if I've bought a 150bhp tractor, and with the fix I'm noit kicking out 135bhp, sorry but that is grounds for compensation as it's not what was advertised...

Agree, most people haven't got a clue about what they're even claming for... and thus should be slapped lol... it'll turn into a farce with people wanting free money, however, this I see (if I had a VW engined car) would be grounds for being angry.

I'm sure most drivers wouldn't notice when they're pootling along at 50 in a 60

[TW]Fox · 10 Nov 2015 at 18:51

pugheaven said:
Thus, if I've bought a 150bhp tractor, and with the fix I'm noit kicking out 135bhp, sorry but that is grounds for compensation as it's not what was advertised...

Where have you pulled those random figures from? You are clearly just making things up.

Cars don't tend to make peak power during emissions testing anyway.