W10 - Subscription

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So Microsoft are going to start pushing W10 to subscription based starting with Enterprise. Pretty sure there was a lot of talk about this when W10 start to role out.

Looks like they are happy to put nail in coffin if that is what will happen in a few years for home users.

Let's hope someone else starts to think about producing a decent OS with Vulkan and DX12 support then.
 
Nothing particularly wrong with W10 just wouldn't mind seeing competition and not subscription based and no Windows has not been subscription before for enterprise.

Source, just google it. All major outlets are reporting.

Apart from it costing significantly more per user/per year for business since the 1 time cost before is only 2 years.

They will move into subscription in a few years for all I feel because it is continuous monies for them. Same as they have done for office 365.
 
I don't see it happening for home users after reading this: https://blogs.windows.com/windowsex...ns-for-windows-10-and-surface-for-businesses/

The subscription is just to ensure businesses have access to the latest enterprise version to stay on top of business level features.

And an alternative OS will be hard, while Vulkan can be avaliable, you're going to need some sort of agreement with Microsoft for DX12. This is why Steam is trying to push developers to OpenGL/Vulkan for their Linux based SteamOS.
 
I am aware but that isn't the same as what is being suggested.

It was just fun to see this start. People say it will never happen but there will be a point that subscription is certainly offered to people even if they don't outright remove a buy now option. Microsoft said themselves 12 months ago they would not introduce a subscription system for Windows and be it personal or business use they have.

And oh yes an alternative OS is a very big push because of what needs to be integrated but that doesn't mean wishful thinking. I would like to see SteamOS grow but it just hasn't had a great start with all that much support.

Marketing hasn't been great for it either. Would just be awesome to see another player in the market. There are companies that could do it.
 
I wouldn't pay a subscription for windows,When i want an OS i want to buy the licence to use it outright,Not have to "Rent" it...i already have enough to pay each month thanks. :D

I doubt very much they would do a subscription model for Windows 10 because people have already bought it,But i do think they will for the next release of Windows.

Microsoft really need some competition now,That can run games just as easily as Windows so we can finally do away with M$.
 
Curlyriff said:
Nothing particularly wrong with W10 just wouldn't mind seeing competition and not subscription based and no Windows has not been subscription before for enterprise.
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this_is_gav said:
Windows Enterprise versions always have been subscription based, haven't they?
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Orcvader said:
The subscription is just to ensure businesses have access to the latest enterprise version to stay on top of business level features.
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For large organisations Windows is normally covered by a Volume License with Software Assurance (which is essentially a subscription anyway)
 
Armageus said:
For large organisations Windows is normally covered by a Volume License with Software Assurance (which is essentially a subscription anyway)
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Indeed as far as I know Windows enterprise version has only ever been available as part of a subscription i.e. as part of a volume license agreement with or without software assurance. This is just a simpler way for small business to get some of the same benefits as larger business.

I dont understand the issue its not like they are announcing you must subscribe to windows as home users. They are just providing an extra option/simpler option for businesses to use windows

Seems a bit click bait to me tbh
 
Indeed, and the option to continue to buy licenses as one off payments is still there.

Its totally not a shift to subscriptions for Windows 10.

Edit: God, the articles about this out there are awful! Written by people deliberately trying to scaremonger about W10 subscriptions at home. Most don't even give any details about the Enterprise options other than grabbing the $7 figure and running with it as if its comparable to the price of Home and Pro! Idiots writing click bait articles for other idiots to read.

Its not even new, this $7 Windows offering has been around for over a year, from before 10 was even released.
 
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Office - pay monthly, always entitled to latest version or buy out-right and be entitled to that version only.
Windows potentially following suit?

How is this a problem, an issue or an attempt for MS to "money grab". If you'd asked me a couple of years ago about software "renting" I'd have said no way.
Recently purchased Office 365 Home subscription as it offers installation on 5 devices at a cost far below buying 5 copies of Office outright.
 
I'm not sure it's obvious to everyone, but it's clear to me that MS are pushing pretty much everything down the subscription basis. Pretty soon I can envisage you would buy a license for a new employee, and that license would have the O/S, Office, Exchange, Sharepoint, Yammer (lol), Skype for Bizness, etc etc. A one cost/per month/per user model.

They are investing significantly in services either delivered or licensed by "the cloud".
 
I'm going to mac if microsoft ever do this to home users.

Office is also subscription based now.
 
Nevakonaza said:
I doubt very much they would do a subscription model for Windows 10 because people have already bought it,But i do think they will for the next release of Windows.
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there's no next release of Windows. windows 10 is the last windows. they'll just continue updating and adding features to windows 10, also i'm guessing at some point they'll remove the number 10 so it'll just be called windows
 
Businesses have been more of a 'subscription' based affair with pc hardware and OS for years. Personally though I will NEVER pay for the OS on a subscription for home use (and I work from home) as this is a core element of a pc, it's like renting your mb/cpu/ram (actually not a bad idea for regular upgraders mind) or another core part of your pc

Software is gradually shifting this way which while I understand some of the benefits I just don't like not owning anything after paying the equivalent of full price for it over a period of time.
 
They "Pay once, user forever" was always good for us but not so for businesses, the problem was, it was difficult to implement 2 decades ago.

Now, it is doable.

Making a good OS is not an easy or cheap task, if it was, Windows would have competition by now.

As it stands, Windows is the "best / most accessible" Operating System available and has been for a long time/forever.

Linux is too entrenched in its "geek" roots it will never EVER become mainstream, if it was, it would have done so a LONG ago. As it stands, its marketshare is pitiful.

Some may say OSX is good and it is although that is heading down the subscription root also.

If Apple were to offer an x86/x64 version of OSX... MS would have competition.
 
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The biggest problem is the legacy software ecosystem - any new OS would have to support a lot of older Windows programs (which would cause all kinds of complications including legal) to make market traction.
 
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