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Wait for X299, or go with Ryzen

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hi there guys,

Ive been thinking about building another system, probably with either the Ryzen 1600 or 1700 - a little undecided between the two. However I wondered with the rumored launch of X299 on the 30th, if this will effect anything? ie. bad time to buy or not? what do you guys think?

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You'll need a lot more money for the X299 system and bottom of the range CPU than you would for a AM4 6 or 8 core Ryzen system. Intel don't seem to care about what Ryzen offers at this end of the market so I can't see anything changing until Intel's road map catchy up to AMD's performance per pound by default. That looks like it will be around 2020 and 7nm.

It would take something like an unlocked £250 6 core CPU and a £350 8 core on X299 to make a difference. At best I could see Intel offer a couple more CPU options between £500-£1700. Maybe the top end will be sub £1500 and the bottom sub £500.
 
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if u got money sure u have to wait, as Intel is going to release I7 babies for June..
as for me i have already pre ordered 1080 ti ftw, now i am waiting for x299 i know it will be costly but got cash.

hope intel will decrease 8 core cpu price to 700$ or will get 6 core anyway.
 
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thanks for your comments guys, I just wanted to ask just in-case. As you say, Ryzen chips are very well priced. Didnt Intel say they might release a quad-core on the X299?
 
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thanks for your comments guys, I just wanted to ask just in-case. As you say, Ryzen chips are very well priced. Didnt Intel say they might release a quad-core on the X299?

Rumour has it that its going to be the 7740K. No integrated graphics, 112w and 100mhz increase.
And I bet it will still need de-lidding to get the most from it. I have no idea who this CPU is aimed at.
 
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Rumour has it that its going to be the 7740K. No integrated graphics, 112w and 100mhz increase.
And I bet it will still need de-lidding to get the most from it. I have no idea who this CPU is aimed at.

People with more money than sense?
 
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Rumour has it that its going to be the 7740K. No integrated graphics, 112w and 100mhz increase.
And I bet it will still need de-lidding to get the most from it. I have no idea who this CPU is aimed at.
hmm.. I thought the X99/299 stuff would be soldered? so wouldnt required de-lidding.
 
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You won't be getting a x299 for anywhere near the cost of a 1600/1700 ryzen setup. Intel will probably perform better but at a cost.
You get what you pay for in life, mostly. Competitors also price according to what they expect each other to do. If Ryzen is cheap now it'll either help push Intel to release better stuff sooner, hopefully cheaper and in this case we should thank AMD :), or it's cheap because they know the competition are soon going to blow them our of the water so need to grab the sales before then. All IMO of course :D.
Personally I'd now wait a bit to see what Intel do.
 
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You won't be getting a x299 for anywhere near the cost of a 1600/1700 ryzen setup. Intel will probably perform better but at a cost.

This, like Kaby Lake the X299 systems will be clocked higher than Ryzen, but you'll pay £450 - £500 for the 6 core and £1000 For the 8 core, Are they really worth 2x the money for the extra 300Mhz?
 
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Hopefully the 6 cores will release at 350 making ryzen look terrible :D

How a 6core at 350 would make something like the 1700 look terrible? It would have to overclock past 6Ghz to match the multithread performance of the 1700@4Ghz.
And given the 140W TDP, it would be lucky if overclocks beyond 4.4Ghz, since it will have the same thermal issues B-E and H-E have.

Which is almost twice as much!
 
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I reckon it will be the same as they are now 6800k is £428.99 and 6850k is £619.99
They will drop the prices of these 2 slightly and slot the new CPU's into the spaces left behind.

Intel increase the price of their CPU's with every new one, so i'm thinking £450 +, X99 Motherboards are also very expensive so don't expect to see X299 boards for less than £250, thats £700 minimum before you get to quad channel DDR4....
 
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Intel increase the price of their CPU's with every new one, so i'm thinking £450 +, X99 Motherboards are also very expensive so don't expect to see X299 boards for less than £250, thats £700 minimum before you get to quad channel DDR4....

It is stupid how greedy they have become. I'd like to take a look at how their sales have taken a hit since ryzen. Then again, if consumers keep buying it then they will keep charging it.
 
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