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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Plenty of shows like Babylon 5 took 20+ episodes to set the pace for the show. SG1 and TNG did the same. TNG took until season 2 to hits its pace. Agents of Shield was the same,etc. X Files took ages to push the overall story forward - Twin Peeks took time to introduce the world,etc. Lost and BSG also took a lot of time to actually progress the story forward. Lots of these shows when you rewatched them you realise things were foreshadowed in the first season.

Then you had series like Watchmen,where people were complaining within 2 episodes.I mean FFS,so many of the best anime series ended up only explaining what is all happening towards the end.

People have gotten used to having the whole season of a show released at once so you can binge watch it. You used to not only have to wait a week for the next episode,but also had to wait ages in between seasons and season breaks. You needed to watch 20~26 45 minute episodes per season with tons of filler standalone episodes when they ran out of script or budget,plus 15 minutes of adverts. Then at episode 10~13 wait a few months for the next part of the season to come on.

Modern shows move at lightspeed compared to the old ones. A modern 10 episode season with 30 minute episodes would be barely the 1st 7 episodes of a 26 episode season with 45 minute episodes.

So 2 30 minute episodes its literally one normal episode,or half a 2 hour pilot - remember pilots?? Yeah,those were upto 2 hours long. The B5 was really mediocre. I am shocked the series managed to get greenlighted!

The whole point of "people don't have time" - people didn't also have time 15~30 years ago.

Except unlike now,you had to watch it on a TV and wait for it to be released. Netflix started as a DVD rental service!

Nowadays you have tablets and phones,meaning you can watch shows much more easily whenever you want.
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Have to say mate, I commend you for that post. A lot of effort and thought their which I admire, hell I even agree with some of it xD

My point is that I think you might be ignoring the fundamental idea that it’s ok to have differing opinions on plot and story structure from show to show. Twin Peaks: The Return is my favourite tv show of all time, it’s also the most boring thing I’ve watched.
Wandavisions opening 1 1/2hrs are hellishly derivative and dull and I can totally understand how that may kill it stone dead for some people, yet to me it’s shaping up to be one of the better tv shows of the last few years. It’s a boring platitude, but it’s all different strokes for different folks.
 
yep tis good

enjoying the "lost" style guessing / theories that are happening in between episodes

think its much better when you get a gap between episodes rather than dumping a whole series out at once, especially when there is a bit of mystery / WTF is going on type thing
 
Disney and Marvel are getting really good at this story telling lark, especially in established universes. Not seen today’s yet but will watch it late tonight.
 
We're well enjoying this so far.

As others had said, the first two episodes are very strange, and almost to the point of being off-putting. We'll even admit that we were close to switching it off and giving it up until the real story started.

Looking back, the weird introduction is somewhat needed and makes much more sense once the main storyline has started to unfold.

They're only 20 minutes long (once you remove the very long credits and intro), so maybe they could have thinned it down to avoid people losing concentration quick.

I do urge anyone who gave up after the first two episodes to continue watching as it's very good.
 
Just watched all 5 back to back as to avoid future spoilers.

Was very apprehensive for the first couple of episodes but 3 really changed it up into what i wanted and 4 and 5 are great.

Indeed marvel are blessed now, they have such a pool of sub characters to draw from, love these 3 "minor" characters all great.

Love Woo/Wu's voice so much :P
 
Given they've just bust through 90 million subscribers worldwide, if they're all paying £/$/€8-10 per month that's somewhere in the region of 700-900 million per month. Now of course some might be on deals from, mobile providers or have purchased a years subs in advance so conservatively Disney are bringing in $500-$600m a month from Disney+. That's a VERY successful movie every month. Avengers Endgame level income every quarter. All of which goes to Disney rather than distributors or the cinemas or in some cases to Actors who negotiated a cut of the Box Office. KER-CHING!

Oh edit to add, we were advised that the series is around 6 hours long. Given we've only had 6 episodes of 30 minutes each we could be in line for a movie length finalé.
 
Dame Woo has Jason Bourne skills. Like him even more now lol.

I was half expecting Roseanne but forgot she was cancelled so straight to Malcolm in the middle?
MissChief said:
Given they've just bust through 90 million subscribers worldwide, if they're all paying £/$/€8-10 per month that's somewhere in the region of 700-900 million per month. Now of course some might be on deals from, mobile providers or have purchased a years subs in advance so conservatively Disney are bringing in $500-$600m a month from Disney+. That's a VERY successful movie every month. Avengers Endgame level income every quarter. All of which goes to Disney rather than distributors or the cinemas or in some cases to Actors who negotiated a cut of the Box Office. KER-CHING!

Oh edit to add, we were advised that the series is around 6 hours long. Given we've only had 6 episodes of 30 minutes each we could be in line for a movie length finalé.
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Seen somewhere they need 200+ subs to break even. With the current 90m subs they are receiving around $4 per sub with all the deals. I believe some people pay as little as $2

Disney stock is still in a slump.

I have personally canceled not because of the current drama but trying to get out of bad habits like subscribing to all the streaming services at once but only watch 1 or 2 shows. Just going to dip in and out and I'm sure there's millions doing the same.

It's does seem good value once Star kicks in but my sub doesn't run out till March I picked up good discount for the year. So I can test that out.
 
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