Want to get rid of speed camera's??
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phill9800 said:
So your slagging us off for discussing if there is a need for them on a discussion board?
I'm stating a preference.
If someone isnt really interested but wants to cause an arguement then I'm not asking for that.
All I'm asking for is, if people want to get rid of them, click the link and sign away.
I dont mind a discussion, but from what I read and stats I see online, 99% of cameras you hear about, are just there for money...
Check out The Sun newspaper when it had a piece in there for a camera on a motorway, £3 million a month or something daft that it made for people going through it? It was awhile ago, I cant remember the figures
If someone isnt really interested but wants to cause an arguement then I'm not asking for that.
All I'm asking for is, if people want to get rid of them, click the link and sign away.
I dont mind a discussion, but from what I read and stats I see online, 99% of cameras you hear about, are just there for money...
Check out The Sun newspaper when it had a piece in there for a camera on a motorway, £3 million a month or something daft that it made for people going through it? It was awhile ago, I cant remember the figures
phill9800 said:Check out The Sun newspaper when it had a piece in there for a camera on a motorway, £3 million a month or something daft that it made for people going through it? It was awhile ago, I cant remember the figures
Congratz. That's the second funniest thing i have read
Just ignore my factual post about the scamera outside my house then a & continue to read the Sun for your facts.
*wanders off crying with laughter*
Dolph said:
However they would still become redudant if everyone stuck to the limit. It would only make the roads marginally safer but no one would get caught by the cameras.
Not a huge fan of incorrectly placed speed cameras but at the end of the day if one gets me, I really only have my self to blame, I know the speed limit, if I choose to break it I have to accept the consequences if caught.
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phill9800 said:Check out The Sun newspaper when it had a piece in there for a camera on a motorway, £3 million a month or something daft that it made for people going through it? It was awhile ago, I cant remember the figures
I am aginst them on motor ways and duel carriage ways but quoting The Sun is more likely to damage your argument not strenght it. After all they are renown for their accuracy
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malc30 said:Congratz. That's the second funniest thing i have read
Just ignore my factual post about the scamera outside my house then a & continue to read the Sun for your facts.
*wanders off crying with laughter*
I think it was on serveral web sites as well, I'm just passing the information on, whether its right or wrong...
Congrats on a working speed camera.
Must be one of the very few that actually make a difference...
chesterstu said:I am aginst them on motor ways and duel carriage ways but quoting The Sun is more likely to waken your argument not strenght it. After all they are renown for their accuracy
I look at the information more than whatever I'm reading, but if I recall, it was mentioned on in a fair few papers. Either way, scam camera's I dont agree with.
Ones that help like the one that the gent above has near him, fair enough
But again, comes down to a driver doing right or doing wrong...phill9800 said:
How is it a scam camera? Was it set up so that it went off below the speed limit? If you are doing above the limit and it catches you then, regardless of if it is improving road saftey or not, you are still to blame for speeding.
Don't get me wrong, I am not a huge fan of them and I am certainly no saint while driving (biker!) but to get caught on a speed camera you do have to be breaking the speed limit.
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Chrisss said:
Personally and only my opinion -
Most of them are placed in places where they shouldnt be. If people cant tell what speed they are doing then fine, ignore the sites and get a picture..
I simply dont agree with them and they can cause more accidents than helping.
Example of someone following someone else, crusing along and spotting one at the last minute, he brakes guy or gal behind him goes right into the back of him or her in front..
Now is that something thats right because he was speeding and the guy or gal behind was stupid because he or she was too close or was it the camera's fault?
If the road is clear and nothing is on it, do our speed limits really do our cars of today justice?
Look at the high way code's braking references... Things have really moved on and I dont think the government has..
Well apart from asilem people and so on, but thats for another thread...
Chrisss said:
Because accident rates actually increase when cameras are used?
http://www.pistonheads.com/speed/default.asp?storyId=15726
That's a quote from a member of staff for a camera partnership...
I agree with the gent at the end of that link..
I think scrapping them and making sure people can drive properly would make a huge difference rather than just putting them up and not really caring to much about them.
I think like so many thanks, this will go on for ages.. But seriously DOUBT that any forum of petition or rally or whatever you want to do, will seriously make any difference to anything the government have in place..
Take petrol, thats gone up 6p a litre in less than a week down where I live.. What the heck for??
I think scrapping them and making sure people can drive properly would make a huge difference rather than just putting them up and not really caring to much about them.
I think like so many thanks, this will go on for ages.. But seriously DOUBT that any forum of petition or rally or whatever you want to do, will seriously make any difference to anything the government have in place..
Take petrol, thats gone up 6p a litre in less than a week down where I live.. What the heck for??
Shackley said:
Well, given that Cameras don't do those things anyway, surely any idea would be 'better'.
However, specifically I would propose a dramatic increase in road patrols, increased focus on poor driving standards, tailgating, inattention and so on. I would also advocate harder driving tests, more engineering solutions for poorly designed roads, more segregation of pedestrians and traffic, and working towards an attitude shift that driving is not something you do in the background, but something you actually have to concentrate on.
This would be a solution that actually focusses on those things that cause accidents and deaths, rather than feelgood cash raising combined with spin that provides totally the wrong message to people who believe in it. Driving my other half to work today, I was shocked by the sheer amount of poor driving, primarily people driving under the speed limit, way too close to the car in front, sitting there all smug because according to misplaced propaganda, they are being safe....
There's ways of doing it without causing potential accidents. I was following two people having a pretty serious road race/rage yesterday, but they both decided they didn't want to be caught by the speed camera. Cue going from 100-30 for the camera, sparks flying from the cars, nearly hitting a bystander while loosing control, smoke coming from the tyres and then speeding right back up to 100 after the camera.Shackley said:
