Want to get rid of speed camera's??

Dolph said:
A perfect example... A 3 lane dual carriageway, with a cliff on one side, a river on the other and two junctions in 4 miles... Yet they dropped it from NSL to 40mph and filled it with 3 permanant cameras, and the camera van can normally be found on there as well...

I wonder why ;)
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Did they want a few more on there just to be sure??
 
I support speed cameras in general because lowering speeds in response to inevitable accidents is not mutually excusive to trying to solve the causes of those accidents. They play an important part and the causes are extremely difficult to eradicate or even reduce.

The slower you drive the more information you can take in, the more time to react and if you do have an accident it will be less severe.

People complain all the time on this forum about rubbish drivers in all situation yet seem to have faith in them to adjust their driving to different conditions and situations. I think not.

Keep adding speed cameras in the correct places and get more traffic police on the road.

ANPR cameras are being added on the main roads into Newcastle, that looks like it will help like.
 
Speed cameras are a waste of time!!!!, because whats to stop people slowing down for the speed cameras and then speeding back up again once they are past them?????
 
eggcup said:
... whats to stop people slowing down for the speed cameras and then speeding back up again once they are past them?????
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The next speed camera 300m down the road ....

What would be easier is to track every car on the road, then you can tell what everybody is upto ...... ummm ....
 
eggcup said:
Speed cameras are a waste of time!!!!, because whats to stop people slowing down for the speed cameras and then speeding back up again once they are past them?????
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The point is they slow you down for that stretch of road.

Cameras are only put in places where there have been a certain number of accidents (or so they say).
 
The only reason you would want speed cameras removed is if you speed. And if you do speed, you deserve everything you get.

The little kid you might run over and kill doesn't really deserve it though now do they.

So no, I won't be signing your stupid petition.
 
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dbmzk1 said:
The only reason you would want speed cameras removed is if you speed. And if you do speed, you deserve everything you get.

The little kid you might run over and kill doesn't really deserve it though now do they.

So no, I won't be signing your stupid petition.
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That's ok, you don't sign the stupid petition, I'll continue supporting things that will actually reduce accidents and injuries.

It's nice to know the government's lies, misrepresentation and propaganda that we've all paid for hasn't been totally wasted though.
 
dbmzk1 said:
The only reason you would want speed cameras removed is if you speed. And if you do speed, you deserve everything you get.

The little kid you might run over and kill doesn't really deserve it though now do they.

So no, I won't be signing your stupid petition.
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I hope you get run over.

That is all.
 
dbmzk1 said:
The only reason you would want speed cameras removed is if you speed. And if you do speed, you deserve everything you get.

The little kid you might run over and kill doesn't really deserve it though now do they.

So no, I won't be signing your stupid petition.
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That is not true at all, no one wants to see people injured and killed on he roads. The most effective way of making sure everyone drives safely (which is the real issue and not the speed at which people travel) is to have more traffic patrols. Cameras are a cheap but ineffective way of policing driving behaviour.

As a teenager riding my bike I was scared stiff of going out at night without any lights because I could almost guarantee I would get stopped by the police and given a warning. Next time, and I knew there would be unless I got lights, they would nick me. As I got older and bought my first car I could also almost guarantee gettting stopped regularly for little errors I had made as an inexperienced driver. Again, the police would point me in the right direction whilst making sure I wasn't up to no good at the same time.

Traffic related death and inury numbers have stagnated over the last couple of decades but this is manily due to the numeorus safety technologies that car manufacturers were legally obliged to fit and we as driver legally obliged or have no choice in using. Seat belts, air bags and ABS being the most prominent, speed cameras have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with that reduction. They are revenue rasiers and nothing else.
 
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At the end of the day speed cameras are here to stay. If you don't like them find an alternative route, or here's a shocker... Don't speed.

TrUz
 
Mr_White said:
I hope you get run over.

That is all.
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Would you care to expand? Some reason for this hope? Or just because he made a reasonably valid point that you don't seem to be able to argue?

Personally, while I hate speed cameras, I don't think we should get rid of them.

It's not hard to avoid getting caught by the fixed ones anyway, they put great big warning signs, they paint them bright yellow, a lot of them have lines in the road showing you where they're clocking you... what more do you want??
 
badgermonkey said:
Personally, while I hate speed cameras, I don't think we should get rid of them.
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I don't necessarily think they should be got rid of entirely, but the current way they are used is totally non-productive. Put a camera outside every school working between 7am and 5pm and you'll have my total support, for example. I was actually involved in a campaign to get a camera sited on a road on dartmoor, but according to the local scamera partnership, it wouldn't catch enough people because the locals know about the hidden hazard and don't speed down there....

It's not hard to avoid getting caught by the fixed ones anyway, they put great big warning signs, they paint them bright yellow, a lot of them have lines in the road showing you where they're clocking you... what more do you want??
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I want a working road safety policy, personally. One that deals with the causes of accidents, working to reduce injuries and deaths. That's far, far from what we have at the moment, and it's far from what speed cameras can deliver in most cases.
 
Mr_White said:
I hope you get run over.

That is all.
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Wow, how impressive. I bet you thought about your constructive and well planned comment for hours before you posted it. Give yourself a gold star.



As for all the other replies... personally I'm shocked at how many people want to speed. I'm not a fan of cameras and do believe they are there only to make money. Though they do reduce accidents in the area they are in, people often speed up again further up the road, so they are not greatly effective.

However, if you don't speed there should be no reason what so ever why they bother you. I don't understand why anyone would want to risk their own lives and that of innocent others just to get where they are going that little bit faster.
 
dbmzk1 said:
As for all the other replies... personally I'm shocked at how many people want to speed. I'm not a fan of cameras and do believe they are there only to make money. Though they do reduce accidents in the area they are in, people often speed up again further up the road, so they are not greatly effective.

However, if you don't speed there should be no reason what so ever why they bother you. I don't understand why anyone would want to risk their own lives and that of innocent others just to get where they are going that little bit faster.
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It is not about wanting to speed, it is the fact that the cameras are used to replace old fashioned and much more effective police traffic patrols. Of course, traffic patrols and normal police patrols also help to reduce other crime. Get rid of the cameras, increase police patrols.
 
dbmzk1 said:
As for all the other replies... personally I'm shocked at how many people want to speed. I'm not a fan of cameras and do believe they are there only to make money. Though they do reduce accidents in the area they are in, people often speed up again further up the road, so they are not greatly effective.
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I guess it depends how you define 'speed'. I think the current speed limits and the way they are enforced is entirely inappropriate, I want to see more emphasis on appropriate and inappropriate speed, which has very little to do with the number on a sign at the side of the road. I want to be able to concentrate on driving without spending half my time worrying about whether my appropriate speed exceeds some arbitary limit (and yes, I do have enough driver training to make that distinction, before anyone asks).

However, if you don't speed there should be no reason what so ever why they bother you. I don't understand why anyone would want to risk their own lives and that of innocent others just to get where they are going that little bit faster.
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Because, in actual fact, they don't risk their own lives, or the lives of others, by increasing speeds? With only about 4% of accidents (government figures) caused by speeding, there is little reason to villify those who don't believe road safety is controlled by a random number at the side of the road...
 
Dolph said:
I think the current speed limits and the way they are enforced is entirely inappropriate, I want to see more emphasis on appropriate and inappropriate speed, which has very little to do with the number on a sign at the side of the road. I want to be able to concentrate on driving without spending half my time worrying about whether my appropriate speed exceeds some arbitary limit (and yes, I do have enough driver training to make that distinction, before anyone asks).
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But how could you enforce such a thing?
 
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