War on terror - have we lost the plot?

It was an act of barbarism, plain and simple. I expected nothing less from the US Govt. on their "holy" war.

hahahaah, they should have slapped his hand and said not to kill thousands of people in the US and blow up the London Underground any more.
He could then sit in prison and we can then pay for his protected lifestyle. :rolleyes:
 
[FnG]magnolia;19051338 said:
No they didn't. Evidence please because you are full of it.

Again.

No they didn't what? Evidence of what exactly, that he was old and very ill? That Benazhir Bhutto confirmed he was dead I think in 2007? What sort of evidence are you after, can you provide me with any that he was killed on May 1st? No? Be quiet then.
 
No they didn't what? Evidence of what exactly, that he was old and very ill? That Benazhir Bhutto confirmed he was dead I think in 2007? What sort of evidence are you after, can you provide me with any that he was killed on May 1st? No? Be quiet then.

Theres no evidence to confirm that either Benazir Bhutto or Obama were correct, but If the former was, surely it would have made worldwide news back then and everyone would have known about it?
 
Which will kick up another storm when the terrorists say he died ages ago and point to his grave

Realistically the Americans would not announce to the world he is dead unless they knew that for sure, so either he died ages ago, died more recently, or they have him in custody knowing he can't make any vids. I've always believed he died a fair while ago, and as I already posted in the other thread as soon as we heard the breaking news that he's been killed I was sure they wouldn't have his body. Lo and behold it was dumped in the middle of the sea.
 
Theres no evidence to confirm that either Benazir Bhutto or Obama were correct, but If the former was, surely it would have made worldwide news back then and everyone would have known about it?

Unless they wanted to keep him alive, because having this bogeyman living out there somewhere has done wonders for their agenda. That was my point though, Bhutto might have been talking lies or they may be now, it's hardly evidence though is it.
 
I'm not sure which Bin Laden "truth" I am supposed to believe.

a) He never existed & was created as a means to gain support for a "war on terror."
b) He died of liver/kidney failure back in 2002
c) He was murdered by Omar Sheikh
d) He is real, but not dead and in US Custody
e) Still out there hiding

They have all been waved about in the other thread.
 
I'm not sure which Bin Laden "truth" I am supposed to believe.

a) He never existed & was created as a means to gain support for a "war on terror."
b) He died of liver/kidney failure back in 2002
c) He was murdered by Omar Sheikh
d) He is real, but not dead and in US Custody
e) Still out there hiding

They have all been waved about in the other thread.

Exactly, although I think (e) is the most unlikely.
 
OBL declared war on America, blew up a load if its citizens, America declared war on OBL/Taliban etc. America kills OBL. Its war someone is going to get hurt.
Sick of this lefty carp, the guy deserved to die, its not like he didn’t know what he was doing. There is nothing new here, its how its been for centuries, you go to war, you kill your enemies leader if you lucky. You think Churchill would have given Hitler a second chance if the opportunity to kill him had arisen?

How anyone can even consider his rights is beyond me and to call it murder is simply laughable.
 
- given up freedom (flying nowdays sucks, terrorism laws foresaking basic civil liberties etc...)
- involved in pointless wars/invasions with countless civilains killed,
- sunk billions to the army which could have been spent on more usefull things
- closed our eyes on torture for the sake of interrogations
- guantanamo holding people for years without any charges and no trial in sight.

As far as the goverment is concerned, this list is their shopping list and everything is going to plan. Lost the plot? Us for allowing it, yes. Them for carrying it out, they know exactly what they're doing.
 
Personally I dont believe he is dead. The US government need an escape goat due to Libya so they can get people back on there side.

Because USA is on the verge of Vietnam v2 with the people rioting. Just wish the yanks and brits would keep there noises out of other countries business. Only there for the oil anyways. I still believe that 9/11 was done via CIA as yanks needed to get people on there side so they could get away with causing illegal wars for oil.

:D Would read again A++++++++
 
Who are the Americans to decide whether or not he should die/be killed?

Who else to decide this?

You could argue that who was Osama Bin Laden to decide that 3000 people needed to die in the WTC, as well as the other thousands as a result of smaller bombings of embassies, trains, buses.
 
[TW]Fox;19051269 said:
If only they had the deep insight, understanding and contacts in world affairs as you do. You should perhaps offer your services as a consultant, I'm sure things would have been done far better under your tenure.
Still sharp on the wit, eh Fox?.
They do? I doubt they wonder anything of the sort.
I'll agree with that, they think they're morally above the rest of the world and are beyond reproach. Usually with a "But we're the USA? We can do what we want." look on their faces when someone disagrees with them.
 
it's a lot more than just flying, it's about illegal taps, holding people without charge etc... for you to be under the illusion of safety. you'd be a lot safer if the west had better foreign policies ;)

What do you mean the "illusion" of safety? Why else would governments LEGALLY tap phones and hold people without charge?
 
Who else to decide this?

You could argue that who was Osama Bin Laden to decide that 3000 people needed to die in the WTC, as well as the other thousands as a result of smaller bombings of embassies, trains, buses.

Good question.... Wish someone had the answer!
 
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