Warm hatch for <£13k

Hyburnate said:
I'd steer clear of the Astra, primarily due to every one I've experienced being pretty unreliable, especially at this age.

Left field suggestion of a Leon FR, you can get these in a 1.8 guise and definitely a 'warm' hatch, I'd argue GTI, 182 and the renault sports are hot hatches, great cars but definitely not a warm hatch. With the Leon you'll get a lot of tech and reliability without the premium commanded by the likes of the VW and Audis.
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Agreed, depending on age a Leon will very likely be much better specced than the the equivalent Focus or Astra. The FR had LED headlights pretty-much as standard long ago for example, while the rest were still pushing cars with halogens.
 
hot hot hatch : Seat Leon 2.0 Tsi 300

quite hot hatch : clio 1.6 TCe Renaultsport

warm hatch : Seat Leon 1.5 TSI EVO FR

Also Golf or Civics to look at
 
My Polo is somewhere in between a hot and warm hatch. Plenty of poke to give most a run for its money, still light compared to the bigger cars.
 
i also drive a Focus 1.8

my next car will be a 2017/2018 Mazda 3, quite a bit faster , nicer inside, probably nicer to drive too
 
Petrol or Diesel take your pick. Its where my 12k would be going :)

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I test-drove a born Cupra obviously on the Autobahn, must admit it felt nippy but the top speed was 94MPH and 0-60 in 7.2 my diesel DSG Octavia was slightly quicker to 60 and just pulls away from the Born. Not sure how a 150BHP leaf would be fair but EVs are not the be-and end-all. A hot hatch is miles different to a Leaf, the two are not even comparable.
 
Steven Rimmington said:
I think the only new EV that is close to a hot hatch is possibly the MG4 even that is no where near cheap enough. But prices for vehicles are ridiculous high. The Born Cupra is 38k. Utter madness haha!!
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Hot hatches and proper sports cars are where EVs are lacking. It's all boring and lazily designed SUV stuff :/

The formula for building cars now seems to be a basic chassis and "it'll do" for the rest of it. Stick a flashy iPad on the dash and the masses lap it up. Drives like a van and the ride is horrible, but look it has android auto! (for now, until phones move on).
 
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Kia ceed GT is a good shout, definitely more warm than hot.

That said the astra vxr is about the same cost, and is a faster and better car (though only with 3 doors)

The standard astra with 1.6 turbo (might be a 1.4 turbo available aswell ) are very like warm.

Other cars to look at in the warm category is Volvo s/V40.
 
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I'm biased, but a DS3 Performance is quite fun to drive. Over 200BHP at just under 1200kg with a LSD. Might be a bit small for what you want though.
 
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