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I've noticed a lot of (younger) people recently don't seem to have time to say the words 'to' and 'the' in sentences. I see it a lot on a dating website I'm on where girl list their interests as:

going pub
going cinema
going town

A guy I work with frequently announces he's "Going Tesco" for lunch, and being the padantic arse I am he gets corrected every day too! :mad:
 
Big Chris said:
I've noticed a lot of (younger) people recently don't seem to have time to say the words 'to' and 'the' in sentences. I see it a lot on a dating website I'm on where girl list their interests as:

going pub
going cinema
going town

A guy I work with frequently announces he's "Going Tesco" for lunch, and being the padantic arse I am he gets corrected every day too! :mad:
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As a Midlander I can confirm that this is pretty much how we all speak, at least around me. However it's more like

"Going t' pub" or unless it starts with a T like in your example of Tesco, then that is correct.

or what I say is "gotta go tesco" lol

When I see it written like that it just looks weird, I suppose it sounds ok because everyone else round here does it.
 
joxang said:
When some people in a region corrupt the language in a certain way and everyone latches on, it turns it into a 'dialect' does it? Like putting 'but' at the end of a sentence? Really?

Also, there's no reason the two can't overlap completely.
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Yes really how else do you think regional dialects are formed maybe a committee debating new constructs and voting on it? Calling it corrupting is also ridiculous as the English language has been in a continual process of evolution for centuries!

I would really know when we suddenly decided our language should stop evolving and got massively Hung up on rules and grammar, which it never used to be.

As for some of the comments about northeners in this thread I can only hope it's a bunch of posh southern shandy drinking woofters having a laugh and nothing serious.
 
I was reminded of a show Jimmy Carr did in Glasgow, where one of the audience, when asked what job he had, replied "Nothing the now."

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krooton said:
I was reminded of a show Jimmy Carr did in Glasgow, where one of the audience, when asked what job he had, replied "Nothing the now."
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Very commonly used north of the border.

Perhaps if you acknowledged that there are intelligent life forms north of Watford then you might not find the need to mistake regional dialect for stupidity or a lack of education.
 
HummuH1 said:
Very commonly used north of the border.

Perhaps if you acknowledged that there are intelligent life forms north of Watford then you might not find the need to mistake regional dialect for stupidity or a lack of education.
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The latter is far more entertaining though. :p
 
I appreciate that I've weighed in already on this subject, but I must say that accent discussions really wind me up. People pronounce things differently in different places. Dialects differ. Deal with it.
 
The limitation I find, or imagine one would have is if certain person has high aspiration to work in a multi-national company and make it to the top, which could mean working in the City. He or she will certainly need to leave their accents and dialects behind.

I would think it would be quite embarrasing to take these regional sayings onto the meeting table with your Japanese counterpart (whom could speak perfect textbook English).

Accents sure, strange use of words that is considered "wrong" in a strict sense, I very much doubt one would get past the interview stage?
 
Raymond Lin said:
The limitation I find, or imagine one would have is if certain person has high aspiration to work in a multi-national company and make it to the top, which could mean working in the City. He or she will certainly need to leave their accents and dialects behind.

I would think it would be quite embarrasing to take these regional sayings onto the meeting table with your Japanese counterpart (whom could speak perfect textbook English).

Accents sure, strange use of words that is considered "wrong" in a strict sense, I very much doubt one would get past the interview stage?
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They don't need to "leave them behind", they just need to adopt appropriate speech for a given setting. Most people do anyway. I talk differently to my kids, my parents, my friends in the pub, my clients, my boss...
 
Vonhelmet said:
They don't need to "leave them behind", they just need to adopt appropriate speech for a given setting. Most people do anyway. I talk differently to my kids, my parents, my friends in the pub, my clients, my boss...
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Ok, wrong choice of the phase "leave them behind", but you know what I mean.

If some girl from the deep depth of the valleys in Wales wants to be the national weather girl. She can't exactly talk the same way as she has done.

Btw, I don't, I talk the same way all the time, the only difference is I might swear if it is appropriate when i am with old friends and that's about it.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Ok, wrong choice of the phase "leave them behind", but you know what I mean.

If some girl from the deep depth of the valleys in Wales wants to be the national weather girl. She can't exactly talk the same way as she has done.

Btw, I don't, I talk the same way all the time, the only difference is I might swear if it is appropriate when i am with old friends and that's about it.
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Huw Edwards begs to differ ;)
 
Raymond Lin said:
If some girl from the deep depth of the valleys in Wales wants to be the national weather girl. She can't exactly talk the same way as she has done.
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She might have to drop slang and dialect, but she shouldn't have to change her accent. Likewise with the comment about getting to the top of an industry profession- it hasn't stopped Alan Sugar or Duncan Bannatyne, has it?

I'm a big fan of accents, they're a massive part of a person's identity. It's a shame that some people still look down on people that have accents, especially broad ones.
 
Fusion said:
She might have to drop slang and dialect, but she shouldn't have to change her accent. Likewise with the comment about getting to the top of an industry profession- it hasn't stopped Alan Sugar or Duncan Bannatyne, has it?

I'm a big fan of accents, they're a massive part of a person's identity. It's a shame that some people still look down on people that have accents, especially broad ones.
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I don't look down on accents, just get annoyed by English being spoken in a way contrary to what I have been taught growing up.

That said, I would find it hard to take someone doing a big boardroom business deal in a heavy West Country accent seriously.
 
krooton said:
I don't look down on accents, just get annoyed by English being spoken in a way contrary to what I have been taught growing up.
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You must get annoyed a lot then living in London, one of the most linguistically diverse cities in the world! ;)
 
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