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Water cooling tips :)

Ok I basically have 3 scenarios based on the fact my friend is planning to buy a 480 at the end of this month which I totally forgot.

First:
Sell my soc to my friend and buy a standard 480. Spend around £200 on water cooling. Means I don't need a new PSU and can add another 480 in the future and can play with better overclocking on my 480 and i7.
Price: £200

Second:
Buy a second 480 SOC, run on air cooling but also have to spend another £200 on a new psu. Over my budget tbh but doable. Probably can't overclock much.
Price: £430

Third:
Sell my SOC to my friend and buy 2 470s or somethng. I don't think I'd need a new PSU, and I could probably water cool these for the price I would pay for scenario 2. This means I'm stuck with 470s and don't have the *add a 480 in the future* option like scenario 1.
Price: £350 or so.

I'm thinking scenario 1. For £200 I'll have a water cooled 480 and it's good to know I can add another in the future when I can afford a new psu aswell. Scenario 3 seems good because I'll have SLI + liquid cooling but I'll lack future proofing and be paying another £150.

What do you reckon?
option 1, I am well happy I have my 480 under water, it's where they shine, I ran mine at 900MHz core and ran the heaven benchmark no problem to take the lead from RavenXXX2 in the benchmark thread, I think mine is the fastest 480 in that thread at the moment
 
option 1, I am well happy I have my 480 under water, it's where they shine, I ran mine at 900MHz core and ran the heaven benchmark no problem to take the lead from RavenXXX2 in the benchmark thread, I think mine is the fastest 480 in that thread at the moment

That's pretty sick. Is there any particular brand of 480 that's best for overclocking? I have decent knowledge on how to overclock but I have absolutly no idea on what makes them fail. For example, I was following a couple of guides with my 480 and they were saying to stop if your card gets near 95 degrees. They managed to clock to pretty nice speeds, and specifically their memory clock went significantly higher than mine. I was running Kombustor and I was seeing tearing/freezing when my card was clocked but running as low as 82 degrees with speeds lower than what they were getting.

I'm pretty excited now. I've wanted water cooling for ages just never had the balls :D
 
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That's pretty sick. Is there any particular brand of 480 that's best for overclocking? I have decent knowledge on how to overclock but I have absolutly no idea on what makes them fail. For example, I was following a couple of guides with my 480 and they were saying to stop if your card gets near 95 degrees. They managed to clock to pretty nice speeds, and specifically their memory clock went significantly higher than mine. I was running Kombustor and I was seeing tearing/freezing when my card was clocked but running as low as 82 degrees with speeds lower than what they were getting.

Well with being under water the temps didn't go above 60c in the 900 MHz I run, I upped the voltage slightly on the card as well to get it to that, it was at 1.113 on the core voltage, mine is the ASUS GTX480, just bog standard reference design card

I only play BFBC2 at the moment and there is no need to run the card over clocked for it as it handles it absolutely fine at stock clocks, I use mainly medium settings in game as thats plenty enough detail for me and it is silky smooth so am happy with it and if BF3 needs more power i can go get another 480 and it should handle it fine.
 
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Well with being under water the temps didn't go above 60c in the 900 MHz I run, I upped the voltage slightly on the card as well to get it to that, it was at 1.113 on the core voltage, mine is the ASUS GTX480, just bog standard reference design card

Hmm, I upped the voltage to 1.125 based on this:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/overclocking-geforce-gtx-480-with-extra-gpu-voltage/2

could that be the problem?

I'm defo going to go with option 1. I'll have to make a shopping list of all the parts I'm going to need I guess. How is the maintenance on liquid? I'm assuming you have to clean the tubes and stuff every so often. How big of a job is it and how often does it have to be done? I'll do some proper research into everything soon, but I'm in the middle of university coursework at the moment so I can't really do it properly.

Thank you for the advice so far btw. Appreciate it.
 
Well I have read a lot of bad things about the SOC version of the GTX480, it could be that they are cheap for a reason as there is lots of cards that are not stable at the factory clocks, could be that they are not not quite reference design cards, could be anything really and I am just guessing but there is a lot of bad reports for the card.

Maintenance I am not too sure on, I will probably change my water every 6 months to a year, that's about all really I think, and just clean the dust out of the rads which is no different to cleaning the heat sinks
 
I've been looking into water cooling quite a bit today during my breaks from working. While so totally daunting at first, it doesn't actually look too bad now.

I'm planning to have a 360 rad at the top of my case I've read in a few places should be fine for cooling my CPU and GPU, but I'm curious as to which component would be cooled first? Would the second component be getting cool enough water without going through a second radiator after being heated up by the first?
 
I've been looking into water cooling quite a bit today during my breaks from working. While so totally daunting at first, it doesn't actually look too bad now.

I'm planning to have a 360 rad at the top of my case I've read in a few places should be fine for cooling my CPU and GPU, but I'm curious as to which component would be cooled first? Would the second component be getting cool enough water without going through a second radiator after being heated up by the first?

I also thought about this, and purchased 2 rads, A 120 and a 240, but after some more reading it turns out there is hardly any difference in temps, maybe 1-2c as the water will equalise any way so makes hardly any difference to temps so in the end I went with a neater loop instead and glad I did now:)

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I also thought about this, and purchased 2 rads, A 120 and a 240, but after some more reading it turns out there is hardly any difference in temps, maybe 1-2c as the water will equalise any way so makes hardly any difference to temps so in the end I went with a neater loop instead and glad I did now:)

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That looks sweet man. Have you got the 120 leading directly into the 240 then before going back to the res? What power pump are you using for 2 components? Also can you recommend a good place to order watercooling parts in the UK? Overclockers don't seem to have much.
 
Yeah that's right, res>pump>GPU>CPU>120 rad>240 rad then into side of res, that's a Laing DDC1T 10W pump and it seems fine, can't recommend any mate as mentioning competitors is against the rules, a quick google should bring you some decent results, I have used mainly EK parts so google EK radiator and the such like should get you going in the right direction.
Also I used Masterkleer 7/16'' ID 5/8'' OD tubing and same size compression fittings, EK do some reasonably priced one's the one's on the pump are EK fittings and the one's on the GPU and CPU are Bitspower fittings, googling them will bring you some results as well
 
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Ok so great news for me, terrible news for my wallet. My friend just told me that if I decided to get SLI 480s, he'd switch out his 950W psu with mine meaning I wouldn't have to buy a new one. That knocks a decent chunk off the original price of SLI and now I'm considering two of those watercooled.

The only way I could pull that off within budget though is if I could cool both cards and my cpu on a single 360 rad in a single loop. I wouldn't be able to afford multiple pumps etc to run a loop for each. Is this viable? I don't want any external rads as I'm a student and move home from time to time so a quad rad is out of the question. Although if I really had to I could add a 120 rad in the middle of the loop. I'm basically thinking this:

Res > Pump > Rad > CPU > SLI > Res. Or swapping cpu and sli if that's better. I don't mind if I can't go omginsane overclock, as long as it runs reasonably quiet and cool.
 
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A 360 rad would really struggle to cool a overclocked i7 and two GTX 480s.
You would need 850W+ of heat dissipation. A quality rad like the RX360, with some beastly fans might be able to get near 800W Heat dissipation, but only at high fan speeds.

If you could get a 140.1 rad mounted in the case, with a thermalright TY-140 140mm fan I think that would work rather well.

Multiple pumps are unessasary anyway, its about dissipation area not flow rates (assuming the pump is decent)
 
Ok so great news for me, terrible news for my wallet. My friend just told me that if I decided to get SLI 480s, he'd switch out his 950W psu with mine meaning I wouldn't have to buy a new one. That knocks a decent chunk off the original price of SLI and now I'm considering two of those watercooled.

The only way I could pull that off within budget though is if I could cool both cards and my cpu on a single 360 rad in a single loop. I wouldn't be able to afford multiple pumps etc to run a loop for each. Is this viable? I don't want any external rads as I'm a student and move home from time to time so a quad rad is out of the question. Although if I really had to I could add a 120 rad in the middle of the loop. I'm basically thinking this:

Res > Pump > Rad > CPU > SLI > Res. Or swapping cpu and sli if that's better. I don't mind if I can't go omginsane overclock, as long as it runs reasonably quiet and cool.

It's possible but i don't think it would be enough. Can you add another rad to the loop somewhere?

I am planning to do exactly the same and i'm going for a 480 rad and a 240.
 
He maybe able to do it with a 360 rad if he uses a high fpi rad like the hw labs gtx with higher speed fans or medium speed fans in push pull, space allowing. If your happy with deltas in the 10-15 degrees range you could easily do it with fans around 1800 rpm. Gentle typhoon 1850's or Vipers would be perfect as they create a lot of static pressure to drive the air through the tightly packed fins of the GTX rad and allow over 1000w at 15 degrees delta. Data from skinnee :)

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To be honest son, watercooling is not worth the price that you must pay.

Is it worth 200 quid + for your computer's temperatures and noise to be lower?

A suggestion if your looking for a quiet/cool case:
Replace your stock casefans with some nice aftermarket fans
 
I just got my two "standard" gtx 480s today but I'm a bit worried. I got the gigabyte version:
Gigabyte GTX 480 Rev1 1536MB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI PCI-E Graphics Card

The website showed this image:

NO HOTLINKING!

However the cards actually contain the windforce 3x triple fans:

NO HOTLINKING!

in a similar fashion to the SOC. The box mentions nothing to suggest it's any other than the standard version of the 480, but I'm worried that the pcb might be different again to the ones in the first picture. If it is the standard card then I'm delighted to have the better cooling, but I still have plans to get these under water eventually.
 
You have the Gigabyte SE with the windforce cooler. They are exactly the same a the SOC (lesser clocks) and have a non ref board.

I would return ASAP!
 
hmm, the rev1 in the title, I would be a little worried about that

edit, beaten by Cleeecooo:), as confirmed above, standard full cover block will not fit these.
 
personally I would sell them for £220 each or something and get the standard one from a well known retailer at £200 each.

where did you get these cards (give us a clue - not the whole name as hat is against forum rules)
 
Somewhere where hE can buy...er...different kinds of things.

That sucks balls. I guess they can't argue as their photo showed the standard cooler. The box doesn't say special edition though and nor did the site. Also the temps are running high on idle, 60-70 and 70-75.

Which one should I get then?

Edit: Just tried heaven benchmark and the top card got to 100c in seconds.
 
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Somewhere where hE can buy...er...different kinds of things.

That sucks balls. I guess they can't argue as their photo showed the standard cooler. The box doesn't say special edition though and nor did the site. Also the temps are running high on idle, 60-70 and 70-75.

Which one should I get then?

Edit: Just tried heaven benchmark and the top card got to 100c in seconds.

ouch, 100c in seconds sounds bad, especially since they have uprated cooling, get the Asus GTX 480 that OcUK stock
 
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