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Water Softener

Discussion in 'Home and Garden' started by Aruffell, Apr 20, 2016.

  1. Chief Wiggum

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Dec 23, 2002

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    Location: Under my desk

    It's fine to drink? Unless you're on a low sodium diet, then they say to avoid it. If it tastes salty something is wrong with it.
    It does alter the taste of it (makes it bland) and some people prefer the taste of hard water, that's why we've had a hard water outlet fitted but it's not mandatory. Our boiling water tap conversely is fitted to the softned supply as I didn't want it to scale up in minutes! The only place you have to have non softened water is the outside tap outlet (if fitted) as the water board can use it to draw off a test from the house, but there is no reason that you can have a second softened outside tap to wash the car etc with.
     
  2. commited

    Soldato

    Joined: Oct 18, 2002

    Posts: 5,369

    Location: Dublin, Ireland

    Bit of a bump here... We are moving into a new-build soon and want to fit a water softener as fed up of hard water in our current place.

    I want to fit an under-sink water filter & dedicated tap for drinking water and fit a water softener system to serve the whole house. I'm pretty sold on the non-electric block salt systems, are there any disadvantages apart from price? We have a heat pump system in the house so no combi boiler to consider.
     
  3. Fuzzb3k

    Gangster

    Joined: May 23, 2003

    Posts: 140

    Location: Fleet, Hampshire

    We have a TapWorks AD11 and it's great. It's electric, but doesn't use that much power. I've fitted a monitoring plug to it and it uses less than £3 worth of electric per year. It's been fitted since we moved into our new build 4 years ago and it's performed well without any problems. We have no scale on any of our taps or shower screens. We have a closed heating system boiler and a 180 litre hot water tank and we've never run out of softened water. We use 25kg bags of Hydrosoft salt tablets, and normally empty one bag in it every couple of months or so. Each bag costs about £10 if you buy in bulk (10+), or Wickes normally have a 3 for 2 offer on (3 for 2 x £14.99 is about £10 each).
     
  4. ddoubleep

    Gangster

    Joined: May 5, 2017

    Posts: 392

    Location: London

    Another bump...

    Rung around a few places and the quotes were quite substantial. A couple wanted nearly £1700 which I thought was overkill for what's offered.

    Any recommendations? I was looking at the Monarch range now and maybe getting a local plumber to install.

    Thanks.
     
  5. glitch

    Mobster

    Joined: Nov 8, 2005

    Posts: 4,384

    Look at reconditioned. I got a Twintec S3 with new resin chambers and a five-year guarantee installed for under £900.

    If you Trust me your details, I can pass on the name of the guy I used. Not sure if he'll cover your area, but he might!
     
  6. ddoubleep

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    Joined: May 5, 2017

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    Location: London

    Where does one look for reconditioned? That Twintec sounds and looks a lot like the one I enquired Minimax M2 and Harvey's. I am looking at one to reduce the awful limescale and also to be less harsh on the skin.

    Is the company anywhere in the South East or London? Just done a quick search and found one in the RG area so will see what they say.

    Also was looking at a water filter and triple tap but I guess they can install that at the same time.
     
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2018
  7. glitch

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    They are all the same. There's a good thread about them on here which will explain how come they all share the same internals and will never undercut each other.

    Not sure where he'll cover, but give him (Danny) a call - his website is here.
     
  8. ddoubleep

    Gangster

    Joined: May 5, 2017

    Posts: 392

    Location: London

    Nice one. That's the website that appeared in my search once you'd mentioned reconditioned. Appreciate the heads up. The guarantee and installation makes the costs more inline what I'd like to spend. Thanks.
     
  9. glitch

    Mobster

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    He's a good guy. Someone on here recommended him to me and he did a very professional job.

    You can't do better than a reconditioned S3 for under a grand including fitting, so you really can't go far wrong.
     
  10. Kemik

    Mobster

    Joined: Nov 7, 2005

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    Location: Widnes

    That would be me :) Danny did a great job. I wouldn't write off electric though. It is much cheaper if you have a plug under the counter that is easy to get to.
     
  11. ddoubleep

    Gangster

    Joined: May 5, 2017

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    Location: London

    Thanks for another recommendation. I don't have a plug under the counter as the dishwasher and washing machine were wired up and use the plugs. I'll see what options available when have a chat. Thanks.
     
  12. Chris344

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Oct 2, 2006

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    We have just moved into a house and we are considering one.

    Couple of questions, I know some people say it’s not good for drinking and others say it’s fine however, if I have a fridge that offers filtered water (Hard connection) Will this filter it and reduce any potential salt?

    What are the actual benefits other then less limescale?

    Thanks
     
  13. fezster

    Hitman

    Joined: Jan 7, 2007

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    Another recommendation for Tapworks AD11 here. Approx. £450.
     
  14. gort

    Wise Guy

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    The house we're moving to has one but not sure if I'll bother with it. Current place is in the same estate (so same water) and no major issues with limescale etc in the 37 years I've been here.
    Also keep aquarium fish and don't want it to mess with the water chemistry. I think the tap that is separate from the softener is the garden tap outside which will be a ball ache having to draw water off that tap and store/heat it up, it's doable though.
     
  15. Aruffell

    Soldato

    Joined: Dec 29, 2004

    Posts: 5,669

    Location: Chatham, Kent

    So to answer your questions.

    I drink it and it's fine. At first it had a slight taste difference but I don't really notice. We did fit a hard tap just incase people don't like it though. My American fridge freezer is fed by the softened water too. Tastes fine.

    Less limescale is great. My kettle, boiler, washing machine, dishwasher, showers, taps all look as new as the day I got them. No water spots etc... on my shower either.

    I have the Minimax M2 and it's great. Cost me £1400 with a ton of salt if I remember rightly.

    Andy