watercooling my cpu shop list included

rick fowler · 6 Jul 2009 at 18:03

ok i think after a lot of headscratching and help from jon,rich i think i have now sorted it all out now if there's something missing then please add the link below ect.so what do you all think then. i forgot to add the fans for the rad i was thinking of the Noctua NF P-12 which would need 3 am i right? there a bit pricey but of they are quite and do the job then i have em,as this pc is what i am aiming to do is make it quite as possiable.

not sure on what other fixings i need if i need them please add the links below cheers

also i am going to light it up a bit with a uv light any ideas on this as never done it before.

WJA96 · 6 Jul 2009 at 18:20

Have XSPC fixed the holes-not-lining-up-right issue? I had two RX radiators and they both had to go back because the holes were drilled in the wrong places. I eventually got a Feser one instead.

Also - I don't see a CPU mounting plate in that order. You need the one with the hole cut in the middle for X58 boards.

I would also suggest you use the XSPC 3/8" ID/ 5/8" OD with those barbs or swap to D-Tek oversized/high flow barbs with 7/16" ID tubing as I've found XSPC's tubing dimensions to be quite generous and it's VERY soft indeed so it stretches much easier than Masterkleer ever did, which makes for a looser fit.

rick fowler · 6 Jul 2009 at 18:28

any links please as all these codes ect are baffling as still learning cheers

rick fowler · 7 Jul 2009 at 02:43

anyone else got a better shopping list than mine or anything you can add to it or change please feel free to add to my cart

rick fowler · 7 Jul 2009 at 09:37

Also - I don't see a CPU mounting plate in that order. You need the one with the hole cut in the middle for X58 boards.

is this the mounting plate?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-036-SW

I would also suggest you use the XSPC 3/8" ID/ 5/8" OD with those barbs or swap to D-Tek oversized/high flow barbs with 7/16" ID tubing as I've found XSPC's tubing dimensions to be quite generous and it's VERY soft indeed so it stretches much easier than Masterkleer ever did, which makes for a looser fit

not quite sure what these are can someone provide a link/pics ect so i can add them to my cart?

cheers

bifday2k · 7 Jul 2009 at 10:43

Basicly same as ur order but few things changed, i noticed that the thermochill rad was cheaper then the xps, seems daft not to get this rad its one of the best in most peoples eyes, i changed the water block for a better one, and included the back plate kit too, 1/2" tubing to go with the barbs OC sells, you would only need to go to ur local hardware store and get metal jubbilee clips (worm driven clamps) to secure the tubing. I would highly advise not using the plastic cable clamps on sale, there ok but not as good as metal.

To make the most out of the uv reactive coolant, u will need some from of Uv lighting so i added in some cathodes, to use these all u do is, find where u want them, install them (usually either by cable ties, or double sided tape) then plug then in via the molex adapers to ur psu and there u go u have uv lighting..

Even though this is £30 more then ur list, ur getting a better water block, better rad, and also includes the things u missed..

Hope this is of some help..

Im no expert but i'll try and explain this high flow barb thing, im sure others will explain better though lol..

Firstly a standard 1/2" barb

And now a High Flow 1/2" barb

As u can see the head on the high flow barb goes down a lot futher then on the normal barb, and abit wider then a normal barb too, people use these with tubing like the 7/16" u had in your list as it makes it a tight fit, all they do is put the tube ending into hot water for abit, to allow them to put it over the barb, and when it cools its on there tight, i personally don't do this as i use jubilee clips, i just like to see it secure with my eyes, but thats just me..

OC don't sell high flow barbs from what i can see so can't add a link sorry, but if u wanting to get all from Oc, then id just get the barbs they sell, and tubing of the same size and use hose clamps.

Hope this helps to explain, like i said others here with more experience with water cooling will be able to help better then i ever could, but i had a spare few mins so thought id try.

rick fowler · 7 Jul 2009 at 11:17

thanks for the input on all this, now i see what you mean by the barbs if i cant locate the high flow i will use the ones in the shopping cart with the piping you added yes?

i can get hose clamps from my local bq store which is not a problem,just gotta wait till items get in stock then i get it all going to be brought in a week or so hopefully

JonJ678 · 7 Jul 2009 at 12:01

Great post by WJA96. Interesting to hear about the xspc issue, cheers.

Is that the old style thermochill with the awkward hole spacing though? If xspc has quality control issues, and thermochill is undergoing a redesign and change of management, feser look to be the sensible choice at the moment.

The swiftech block was loved for 775, I was under the impression people liked the ek or the heatkiller most for i7. So I still vote for the ek supreme, though you do need the appropriate plate for it.

UV cathodes will make things glow, and encourage algae to grow. I don't think that's a worthwhile exchange myself, but many people disagree. The clamps you want are jubilee clamps, Screw/band (Worm Gear) clamps in the appropriate size. Cheap and very effective.

The noctuas or scythe s-flex will do well with the radiators and run quiet. If you undervolt them to 7V, or to a variety using a fan controller they'll be excellent.

rick fowler · 7 Jul 2009 at 12:08

do you reckon i should swap the rad jon to the feser then if so which one and what fans would be good could you post the links mate then i can change my shopping list.

what should i do then about the block keep this one or change it?

not sure about algea growth i have enough of that in my mubuna fish tank!!! any other ideas on lighting?

Jezzer · 7 Jul 2009 at 13:26

Why not just buy the swiftech apex ultima kit....everything you need and good quality bits?

rick fowler · 7 Jul 2009 at 13:44

not sure if it would run my setup all that well looks like everything i need is there but i would need to know it would run it ok first so let see if my mate joh has anything to add

bifday2k · 7 Jul 2009 at 14:53

Yeh i was'nt to sure on the rad myself, and as i was putting a list together for him that was soley from OC'ers, you might be right about the EK block being better on I7, if i have time later i'll get a list together for you of products, but u will have to google for prices and such as i can't link to other sites from here.

About the Uv and algae thing never knew that, i was planning to do that myself, mmm think i'll just go clear tubing and coloured coolant, or just clear coolant myself lol..

bifday2k · 7 Jul 2009 at 16:10

Sorry for double post, but thought it best to make new post with this info..

As promised before a little list to help you out abit so u can google stuff..

Water block
EK-Supreme CPU - Acetal Universal Inc i7 (1366)
or EK-Supreme CPU - Plexi Universal Inc i7 (1366)

don't worry about there being 2 types, there both the same water block just the plexi one has a see through top..

EK Water Blocks EK Supreme LGA1366 Mounting Plate or a universal
LGA i7 (1366) Motherboard Back Plate

Pump
XSPC DDC 18w Ultra Pump/Reservoir

Radiators (performance)
ThermoChill PA120.3
XSPC RX360
Black Ice GT Xtreme
Swiftech MCR320-QP-K

Radiators (budget)
Black ICE GT Stealth 360
Black ICE GT Stealth 360 XFlow
XSPC RS360

Barbs/Fittings
Danger Den G1/4inch High Flow 1/2inch thread Chrome Fittings
or the same type made by detek, they will do the same job just difference manufactures.

Tubing
11mm (7/16") ID tubing more or less from any maker, all depends on the quality u want, this way u would'nt need to use hose clamps, as the hose should make a very tight seal by itself.

Or you can go with 13mm (1/2") ID tubing and use hose clamps, its all personal choice really.

Coolant
Mmm this stuff is totally up to personal choice, can be clear, Uv reactive, coloured u name it lots of choices really

rick fowler · 7 Jul 2009 at 16:10

bifday2k said:
Yeh i was'nt to sure on the rad myself, and as i was putting a list together for him that was soley from OC'ers, you might be right about the EK block being better on I7, if i have time later i'll get a list together for you of products, but u will have to google for prices and such as i can't link to other sites from here.

About the Uv and algae thing never knew that, i was planning to do that myself, mmm think i'll just go clear tubing and coloured coolant, or just clear coolant myself lol..

ok mate im in no major hurry just wanting to get the items sorted now so i know how much i gotta save up

rick fowler · 10 Jul 2009 at 21:54

Water block
EK-Supreme CPU - Acetal Universal Inc i7 (1366)
or EK-Supreme CPU - Plexi Universal Inc i7 (1366)

don't worry about there being 2 types, there both the same water block just the plexi one has a see through top..

EK Water Blocks EK Supreme LGA1366 Mounting Plate or a universal
LGA i7 (1366) Motherboard Back Plate

Pump
XSPC DDC 18w Ultra Pump/Reservoir

Radiators (performance)
ThermoChill PA120.3
XSPC RX360
Black Ice GT Xtreme
Swiftech MCR320-QP-K

Barbs/Fittings
Danger Den G1/4inch High Flow 1/2inch thread Chrome Fittings
or the same type made by detek, they will do the same job just difference manufactures.

Tubing
11mm (7/16") ID tubing more or less from any maker, all depends on the quality u want, this way u would'nt need to use hose clamps, as the hose should make a very tight seal by itself.

Or you can go with 13mm (1/2") ID tubing and use hose clamps, its all personal choice really.

Coolant
Mmm this stuff is totally up to personal choice, can be clear, Uv reactive, coloured u name it lots of choices really[/QUOTE]

gordon bennitt im back sorry for delay,my heads spinning over it all im liking the above i will go performance rads,i try not to go cheap as i have spent 1500 on pc not one bit is budget so might as well keep going

so which rad will do me and i take it i need 3 fans for it(i take it all the above rads fit a haf932)

ok now i decided i would like buy the gpu items as well,as im doing the cpu silly not too

my aim is

quite
cool
bling

budget is £300.00 go to work guys n girls

ps thanks to bifday2k for list but which rad out of the ones i listed,im still bit mythed on what fittings i need could it be done more easy all those numbers ect scare me also what tubing is needed,im alright building the stuff but me and numbers dont mix,im sure if it was done in newbie format i would understand more lol. :confused:

is there anyting else i need uv lights fluids ect list them there if can get it on ocuk the better sorry for the newbie post looking to order in the next week

rick fowler · 11 Jul 2009 at 06:33

o jonny where are thee now you usaully pop up

bifday2k · 11 Jul 2009 at 10:40

Ok this is a full list that is available from Overclockers, minus the back plate, as they don't seem to sell it for that water block, it comes to just under £300 and the backing plate would be around the £10 mark.

Please not that i have added in 1/2" hose clips but these can be bought from any local DIY store, the metal worm drive clamps as stated earlier in the topic.

This list also includes GPU Cooling..

The list below is everything the same as above, just with a better waterblock for you GPU, it covers all your card instead of just the GPU itself, but you are limited to using that card with with this block where as the one in the other list is more universal. And as u can see there is abit of a price difference, so i thought id add both in for u to look at.

As u stated all these numbers do get confusing, don't worry mate it sent my head spinning the first time to. Id suggest just sticking with normal fittings and hose, and use clamps like in my list atleast u know 1/2" goes with 1/2" stuff, so when shopping u can bybass all the other numbers and just look out for them..

Hope this helps, as its more of a detailed list, a few things could be tweaked, but by no means would either of those 2 lists be lacking, they would cope with what your after.

When it comes to radiators, its really about brand preference, there is'nt a huge difference between them. I added the thermochill one, as its not a stupidly high price for what your getting, neither is it the cheapest, and they are used by an awfull lot of people, so getting help with them would be easy.

rick fowler · 11 Jul 2009 at 14:16

cheers mate the sencond one is the one i think,i wont be changing gfx for ages i hope lol,shall be ordering next week sometime if all in stock i shall look for the backplate from some where whats it called mate and a pic if poss so i know what to look for you have been very helpfull getting all this done for me and making it simple to read and look at.

JonJ678 · 11 Jul 2009 at 20:58

Second spec is solid. Avoids needing to source ram sinks and the like for the graphics card. Have you got three old 120mm fans to make shrouds from?

Don't use the plastic hosing clips though, drop those from the list and visit a diy store. Ask for half inch jubilee clips. They'll be cheaper and far better. Consider coloured tubing as you're using clear fluid. I'll go have a look for the backplate, as I'll need one myself at some point

Cheers Rick

Google EK Intel Socket 1366 Backplate and you wont go wrong. Top link has an exploded diagram of it. Cheap too at 6.75 delivered, I think my 775 backplate cost a tenner.

rick fowler · 11 Jul 2009 at 21:08

JonJ678 said:
Have you got three old 120mm fans to make shrouds from?QUOTE]

no i anit what are shrouds anyway what do i do with them then

i get the jubliee clips then from bq onyl 10mins away, so i shall go with the second spec seems pretty good buy him a beer one day lol,if i need shrouds or whatever they are plz add to me list above cheers i e using it for referance

cheers