Evra, what an awful penalty 
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Really enjoying the game.
Interesting game really, Chelsea have been much better second half, playing really well.
Manchester United, look a little "meh" second half, were better in the first.
I thought it was a foul on Evra, and Ballack was very lucky to escape without a red for an elbow. I also thought Rooney was offsidefootball
nice to have it back.
Andy Gray is a complete tool as well.
Side note, does anyone see this game as a "If United win, Fergie is a great manager, and they're not missing Ronaldo. oooo is Ancelotti the right man for the Chelsea job??"
"If Chelsea win, Ancelotti is a great manager. Fergie hasn't replaced Ronaldo and United miss him."
Quoting my sum up for the game.
Congratulations Chelsea.
I thought both side's were very good, I'd still raise a question mark over Cech and Fosters confidence.
Berbatov looked good imo, most of the United players had a good game.
Chelsea looked good, Drogba looks very good, still unimpressed by Malouda and Kalou ?
Ballack and Deco weren't on long enough to make an impact, same could be said for Scholes, well other then putting his elbow in to Evra's face.
Berbatov looked good imo, most of the United players had a good game.
Chelsea looked good, Drogba looks very good, still unimpressed by Malouda and Kalou ?
Ballack and Deco weren't on long enough to make an impact, same could be said for Scholes, well other then putting his elbow in to Evra's face.
I thought it was a raised arm, and a professional foul, he blocked Evra's run. Free kick for me, regardless of which teams were involved.
United didn't get that, same way Rooney was offside and Chelsea didn't get that.
Swings and round abouts.
United didn't get that, same way Rooney was offside and Chelsea didn't get that.
Swings and round abouts.
I don't see how you can compare Drogba and Evra.
Drogba is an awful constant diver, yet immensely talented and brilliant footballer. I was very impressed with him today, he looked very fit and sharp. I'd even go as far as to say almost back to been near his best.
Evra can't be compared with him.
Drogba is an awful constant diver, yet immensely talented and brilliant footballer. I was very impressed with him today, he looked very fit and sharp. I'd even go as far as to say almost back to been near his best.
Evra can't be compared with him.
Ever since the Barca game he's stayed on his feet a lot more.
Not that I'm defending him, just see if you notice it
Drogba's biggest problem is his diving and attitude to the game.
His diving, even if he stopped 100% today doing it, will still massively affect his game, if he goes down, he's diving even if it's a real penalty. I think 80% of the time he is diving, or was last season, which was summed up very well in the Barca game, and his attitude at the end.
I honestly, wouldn't want him at my club, and I'd rather take a forward who doesn't do this, i,e that girl from Liverpool.
now are we talking on the football pitch ? 
It was a foul.
Foul's should stop the game.
The ref played advantage, which is interesting, because a good majority of the time any injury that looks like a head injury is stopped very quickly.
*will not mention Lampard*I think Cole is a World Class left back, it pains me to say it because I think he's a ****.
Chelsea, like Manchester United, have a core group of world class players.
oooo selective quoting Skip
I'd say fouls should stop the game, the rules do as well. If it's a "meh" foul, in which case advantage should be given if the side who were fouled retain the ball in a good position. For example still on the attack.
In which case, when play next stops, the player who fouled the player should be booked.
Unless it appears to be a head injury, in which case, play should be stopped to make sure, which is normally indicated by a player holding his head.
I think it was a foul on Evra, I'm not bothered about it, I also think Rooney was offside. Swings and round abouts.
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I'd beg to differ about it being that clear about it not been a head injury, it happened very quickly.
I saw the body check, not the raised arm first and just thought "free kick" United still had possession though so I didn't see it as a problem, he did however hold his face. In which the majority of refs stop the game, just to be sure.
I saw the body check, not the raised arm first and just thought "free kick" United still had possession though so I didn't see it as a problem, he did however hold his face. In which the majority of refs stop the game, just to be sure.
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*sigh it was a proffesional foul, deal with it, the Ref didn't give it as United still had the ball and gave advantage, I feel it was a foul* United didn't get this.
Rooney was offside, Chelsea didn't get that.
Swings and round abouts. As I've said.
What The **** does all this have to do with A) Football. B) The Weekend Football thread.
Go to speakers corner if you want to complain about footballers.
You can apply the flip side, bad tackles, professional fouls, taking ages over a throw in / kick means the ref needs to spend time to sort the game out.
Time is often added on for most stops.
I still don't understand why you are drawing parallels with Rugby.
I'd argue that Evra is playing the modern game.
Diving, regardless of your opinion, is part of the modern game.
If players didn't spend so much time making bad tackles, or professional fouls to slow the game down, or taking throw ins in 30 seconds, the game would be better.
If refs were "better" more consistent the game would be "better".
Football is what it is, if it was all perfect, we'd have nothing to debate, part and parcel of been a football fan is the wrong decisions, the pen's that never were and that diving scum getting another played booked or sent off.
Rugby players, are almost a different breed to footballers, the games require different styles of play, players, training. No a footballer might go down after one professional shoulder barge, but how many rugby players could dance through the England defence and score an amazing goal. I really don't get what you're getting at.
Diving, regardless of your opinion, is part of the modern game.
If players didn't spend so much time making bad tackles, or professional fouls to slow the game down, or taking throw ins in 30 seconds, the game would be better.
If refs were "better" more consistent the game would be "better".
Football is what it is, if it was all perfect, we'd have nothing to debate, part and parcel of been a football fan is the wrong decisions, the pen's that never were and that diving scum getting another played booked or sent off.
Rugby players, are almost a different breed to footballers, the games require different styles of play, players, training. No a footballer might go down after one professional shoulder barge, but how many rugby players could dance through the England defence and score an amazing goal. I really don't get what you're getting at.
Diving is part of the modern game.
Live with it, every other football fan does.
Cheating in football, isn't just diving.
Get over it.
Bye Mr Troll.
Live with it, every other football fan does.
Cheating in football, isn't just diving.
Get over it.
Bye Mr Troll.
My argument hasn't run dry, which is why I'm going
I don't see how you can compared, two very different sports, Rugby is about physical prowess, of course the players are able to stand up after being tackled by 2 or 3 opposing players. That however is not how football works, and 2-3 players, who would weigh nearly twice what a football don't tackle you around the waist while you're running. One player, may clip you, just catch your leg gently but at the speed you're moving you'll be put off your stride and will fall over. Football, often isn't about crunching tackles, while they do help sometimes, football is more of an art, its about dancing with your feet around the opposing team, Rugby, has always struck me of been a more industrious game, were physical power plays a much larger role.
You comparing the gently footballer to a brutal rugby player, isn't too far from comparing a quick sports car, to a truck. The truck might be able to come off better in a crash, but won't be able to keep up with the sports car, or have the handling the sports car has. That's not to say rugby players are slow, nor unable to turn well
I think, it's very silly to compare the two sports.
Diving does happen, it's not something that these "foreigners" have brought over, diving has always happened in football. Blaming someone else for your own flaws is a very easy thing to do. Go watch the 1966 world cup final, players dive.
Diving is one way of cheating, or gaining an unfair advantage. There are many ways in football, or any sport of gaining an advantage, now these have helped teams to win games, and have back fired. I personally, feel the whole "time wasting" idea is a weak way of gaining a time advantage.
Now, just because a player seeks to gain an advantage, to help his side win the game, regardless of talent, he's helping the team, that pays his wages. You could even argue that players who cheat, are loyal or hungry, because they're willing to do anything to win the game, even putting their own reputation on the line as a sports man. Take Drogba for example, he's physical, fast, has good feet and is a world class "old fashioned" center forward, however he dives, not because he's a bad player, but because he's wasting time, or it's his will to win the game at any cost, even if he has to play dirty. Ronaldo, was a brilliant quick, nippy and technical winger, but he dived and play acted, because yes getting a player booked weakens the opposing team, because yes those free kicks him and Drogba win, have the chance to win the game, or get them back in to the game. I don't like seeing players dive, I agree it's cheating, but I do understand why they do it.
I don't want to stay here, arguing with such a silly person.
Goodnight / Good morning
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I don't see how you can compared, two very different sports, Rugby is about physical prowess, of course the players are able to stand up after being tackled by 2 or 3 opposing players. That however is not how football works, and 2-3 players, who would weigh nearly twice what a football don't tackle you around the waist while you're running. One player, may clip you, just catch your leg gently but at the speed you're moving you'll be put off your stride and will fall over. Football, often isn't about crunching tackles, while they do help sometimes, football is more of an art, its about dancing with your feet around the opposing team, Rugby, has always struck me of been a more industrious game, were physical power plays a much larger role.
You comparing the gently footballer to a brutal rugby player, isn't too far from comparing a quick sports car, to a truck. The truck might be able to come off better in a crash, but won't be able to keep up with the sports car, or have the handling the sports car has. That's not to say rugby players are slow, nor unable to turn well
I think, it's very silly to compare the two sports.
Diving does happen, it's not something that these "foreigners" have brought over, diving has always happened in football. Blaming someone else for your own flaws is a very easy thing to do. Go watch the 1966 world cup final, players dive.
Diving is one way of cheating, or gaining an unfair advantage. There are many ways in football, or any sport of gaining an advantage, now these have helped teams to win games, and have back fired. I personally, feel the whole "time wasting" idea is a weak way of gaining a time advantage.
Now, just because a player seeks to gain an advantage, to help his side win the game, regardless of talent, he's helping the team, that pays his wages. You could even argue that players who cheat, are loyal or hungry, because they're willing to do anything to win the game, even putting their own reputation on the line as a sports man. Take Drogba for example, he's physical, fast, has good feet and is a world class "old fashioned" center forward, however he dives, not because he's a bad player, but because he's wasting time, or it's his will to win the game at any cost, even if he has to play dirty. Ronaldo, was a brilliant quick, nippy and technical winger, but he dived and play acted, because yes getting a player booked weakens the opposing team, because yes those free kicks him and Drogba win, have the chance to win the game, or get them back in to the game. I don't like seeing players dive, I agree it's cheating, but I do understand why they do it.
I don't want to stay here, arguing with such a silly person.
Goodnight / Good morning
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cheating has and will always happen in football.
I understand why and how people get so worked up over it but it's happened for years and years and it will keep happening for years and years.
People cheat, because simply it can be the difference between winning and losing.
I understand why and how people get so worked up over it but it's happened for years and years and it will keep happening for years and years.
People cheat, because simply it can be the difference between winning and losing.
Diving, bad tackles, professional fouls, moving free kicks forward, time wasting, moving the wall forward ect ect have and always will happen.
Simple.
Yes, it's annoying and frustrating, but it's not something "new" that needs to be stamped out, it's part and parcel of the game. It very simply gets more attention.
Simple.
Yes, it's annoying and frustrating, but it's not something "new" that needs to be stamped out, it's part and parcel of the game. It very simply gets more attention.
Drgoba never played for Manchester United ? 