Well can it run Deus Ex MD ?

Greebo · 24 Aug 2016 at 11:26

Cooper said:
Well that to me suggests a severe CPU bottleneck.

Poorly coded A.I routines probably.

Well that guy was running a Intel i7 6700K 4.4GHz OC.

So again we come back to a broken game/poorly coded.

wunkley · 24 Aug 2016 at 11:27

Had vsync on and monitor refresh set at 120hz is the most obvious, Shirley

VincentHanna · 24 Aug 2016 at 11:27

Funnily enough I was watching the back of Adams head in a cutscene and thought his hair looked really good.

Maybe I'm blinkered because the last game doesn't look great and this is a HUGE improvement.

Greebo · 24 Aug 2016 at 11:34

wunkley said:
Had vsync on and monitor refresh set at 120hz is the most obvious, Shirley

No cause he then said in game the framerates were actually better than the benchmark ones and he could get over 120 fps.

Doubt he changed anything between benchmark and game.

To be fair, seeing a 980ti only gets 60fps at 1080p at medium and I can see it only getting 120fps at 720p at low settings.

VincentHanna · 24 Aug 2016 at 11:37

Well that's another thing about the benchmark.

In-game the framerate is considerably higher.

Greebo · 24 Aug 2016 at 11:40

to be fair i see xbox owners complaining about 20 fps they are getting as well.

wunkley · 24 Aug 2016 at 11:56

Good video here showing ultra, high, medium and low comparisons with frame rate too. Must admit, watching this the overall graphics quality isn't mind blowing, but the art style is slightly 'cartoony' like the previous deus ex hr game and has a certain look I quite like.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=02uxM3vyClY

JediFragger · 24 Aug 2016 at 12:10

Greebo said:
to be fair i see xbox owners complaining about 20 fps they are getting as well.

Probably at 720p too :eek:

VincentHanna · 24 Aug 2016 at 12:11

Game has already been patched by the way.

That's less than 24 hours from release so (as with most games) I'm sure we'll see performance improvements.

Doom112 · 24 Aug 2016 at 12:13

JediFragger said:
Probably at 720p too

Yes. Even on PS4 in some location it is unplayable. This not the fault of coding and i think the graphic engine suck for open world.

VincentHanna · 24 Aug 2016 at 12:23

Doom112 said:
Yes. Even on PS4 in some location it is unplayable. This not the fault of coding and i think the graphic engine suck for open world.

It's based on the Glacier 2 graphics engine that powers HITMAN, which is the definition of a highly detailed and large playing area with lots of NPCS.

It's not an open World game in the same sense as GTA V though.

N19h7m4r3 · 24 Aug 2016 at 12:24

Doom112 said:
Yes. Even on PS4 in some location it is unplayable. This not the fault of coding and i think the graphic engine suck for open world.

Both Xbox and PS4 have dips into the 20's;, and this is only in the first mission. Really rough; the game needs more work.

VTR · 24 Aug 2016 at 13:13

[email protected], 980Ti, 8GB RAM, 1080P

Texture Quality: Ultra
Texture Filtering: 16x Anisotropic
Shadow Quality: Very High
Ambient Occlusion: Very High
Contact Hardening Shadows: Ultra
Parallax Occlusion Mapping: High
Depth of Field: Off
Level of Detail: Very High
Volumetric Lighting: On
Screenspace Reflections: Ultra

TAA: On
Motion Blur: Off
Sharpen: On
Bloom: On
Cloth Phyics: On
Subsurface Scattering: On
Chromatic Aberration: Off
Tessellation: On

Average: 70.1 FPS
Minimum: 57.4 FPS
Maximum: 91.3 FPS

Looks great, runs great, just needs a bit of tweaking. I'm glad that it can't run maxed out, good to see games pushing the hardware again, Devs can't win these days

Doom112 · 24 Aug 2016 at 13:13

Wccf benchmark.

http://wccftech.com/deus-mankind-divided-performance-tested/

Greebo · 24 Aug 2016 at 13:19

VTR said:
Looks great, runs great, just needs a bit of tweaking. I'm glad that it can't run maxed out, good to see games pushing the hardware again, Devs can't win these days

There is a difference between not being able to run maxxed out and £3500 of current hardware not being able to run it at 4k never mind maxxed out..

The fact that even your 980ti cant keep the framerate above 60 at 1080p is telling.

On their basis, we are probably looking at a card in 2022 able to play this game maxxed out at 60fps+ at 4k.

Question is who wants to go back and play a 6 year old game then?

VincentHanna · 24 Aug 2016 at 13:22

Greebo said:
On their basis, we are probably looking at a card in 2022 able to play this game maxxed out at 60fps+ at 4k.

Question is who wants to go back and play a 6 year old game then?

Or....we could wait 2 weeks for the DX12 patch?

N19h7m4r3 · 24 Aug 2016 at 13:26

VincentHanna said:
Or....we could wait 2 weeks for the DX12 patch?

This is Nixxes porting it, the DX12 patch didn't offer the same performance increase in ROTTR as it does in other games; so I wouldn't get my hope up just yet.

VincentHanna · 24 Aug 2016 at 13:27

Different engines.

Deus Ex Mankind Divided engine is a heavily modified Glacier 2 engine as used in HITMAN

HITMAN in DX12 works much better for me than DX11.

Doom112 · 24 Aug 2016 at 13:34

VincentHanna said:
Different engines.

Deus Ex Mankind Divided engine is a heavily modified Glacier 2 engine as used in HITMAN

HITMAN in DX12 works much better for me than DX11.

It worse. The dips and crashes still cannot be resolved even on AMD. That is why the game reviews are mostly negative in steam.

VincentHanna · 24 Aug 2016 at 13:35

Doom112 said:
It worse. The dips and crashes still cannot be resolved even on AMD. That is why the game reviews are mostly negative in steam.

For about the 3rd time - DX12 isn't even in the game yet and any benchmarks claiming to be run in DX12 are rubbish.