Wenger and co getting abused by arsenal fans

jonneymendoza · 18 Dec 2014 at 09:59

Newbie007 said:
when have arsenal ever won the CL? Even in his 'heyday'?

got close a few times in his heyday.

we have not gotten close for the past 5+ years. we have fallen badly.

like i said, for the prices we pay, the money invested in salary overal and the point of moving to the emirates, we expect us to at least compete with the very best and occasionally win a few trophies or so .

If Dortmound and Athletico can compete with the very best in a smaller budget then arsenal, so can we and thats the point DM made but people refuse to aknowledge that.

we have not. we have failed to do so. the FA cup just papers over the cracks. We are still not competing with the very best and we still make same stupid mistakes every game we play.

Many none arsenal fans or arsenal fans backing wenger all think people who want wenger out are fickle fans yet you got united and liverpool fans all wanting there managers(moyes for united), gone after only a handful of bad games.

Jesus if LVG diddnt go on a 5 game winning streak, you lot would all for his head and no one would think your fickle.

If its wenger who has had 10 average seasons on an idle state, they are fickle for wanting wenger out..

jonneymendoza · 18 Dec 2014 at 12:34

No people have said all arsenal fans are fickle.

When's the last time I said I wanted Wenger gone?

Exactly...

You be using the same old excuse 10 years later referring to 20 years ago when I wanted Wenger gone

jonneymendoza · 18 Dec 2014 at 14:19

twist3d0n3 said:
referring to 4 years before you signed up to the forum? i doubt it.

you're fickle jonney, more so than most football fans i've had the (dis)pleasure of talking to.

prove it. no one has so far so go on show me a post i made wanting wenger out these past 6months as an example.

dannyjo22 said:
I actually do think you have memory issues, I proved and quoted your posts last year when you did this exact same thing. Quoted your flip flopping and yet you have forgotten already. I do think you need to get yourself check out

Now you are saying when was the last time you said you wanted him gone, yet you have been at pains to tell us only you and DM have been consistently banging the drum to get rid because of the same old issues. Which is it Jonney?

A. It's been years since I wanted him gone
B. Me and DM have wanted him gone for 6 years but none of you listen

lol last year. nuff said. you said every week. over a year a go more like. do keep up lad.

Like said, 10 years from now you will still be refering to that same post you quoted LOL.

do you not understand the word fickle?

its someone who changes there minds very very frequently ie like once a months or lesser..

not every x amount of years.

the fickle ones are the liverpool fans who change there tune every other game they play.

as soon as LVG loses a match again, united fans will start questioning him again LOL and as soon as rodgers wins a few more matches in a row, his god and the next pep guadiola.

now thats fickle .

you sir dont even understand the definition at all.

You and all none arsenal fans all call EVERY ARSENAL FAN fickle for wanting wenger out

jonneymendoza · 18 Dec 2014 at 15:08

There is nothing to dig thats why

Maybe so but most would call for his head and outsiders would not call them fickle.

jonneymendoza · 18 Dec 2014 at 15:41

Hello

jonneymendoza · 19 Dec 2014 at 07:56

dannyjo22 said:
No I didn't, learn to read. I didn't say every week at all. I said one week you are saying get him out and the next week taunting Dm for saying get rid of him. That is not saying every week.

Lets look at this time last year, it seems to be a theme...

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=25495247&postcount=57

I can't be bothered to read through all your stuff again because it's like a theme that repeats every year.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=25051254&postcount=428

You said the same last year and I quoted your posts to show you that you have no memory. Anyone can put in an advanced search of your posts from 1 year and older to see how much you flip flop. My very link above shows you how it meets you very definition of fickle, it wasn't even 6 weeks you went from wanting him out to asking "when was the last time I wanted him out".

Seriously you need help. Even if you do a 1 year and longer search and skim the posts you can see how often you tell DM he's talking ****. Only now though you say only you and him have been saying for years he should go. Do you think everyone has the terrible memory? Do you think all these people that can see what you do are making it up? The FA cup final thread you mock DM constantly for saying he wanted rid of Wenger.

No you said I change my tune every week. I challenged you and anyone to show me a post wanting Wenger our these past year or so and you have not provided nothing.

Keep digging because your post above is invalid

jonneymendoza · 19 Dec 2014 at 09:32

One week and the next means last week I wanted Wenger out and this week I wanted him to stay.

Like I said. You fail to prove that this is the case as the last time I wanted Wenger out was a year or more ago.

You will still say the same tired excuse 10 years later claiming that I so called change my tune every week.

So again go and show me a Wenger out post sometime even this year.

About dm. I disagree with some of is posts not all. Things like saying how Ramsey is poor/average to saying how we was lucky to win matches we fully played well on. Are stuff I disagree but things like we don't have plan b. Don't make good enough buys or plug in the gaping holes in our squad are correct yet u call him me and ever arsenal fan who once /now want him gone as fickle yet those who say that are the real fickle fans who want the likes of padrew Rodgers Moyes etc out one week. In the next week.

edit: just checked your quoted post. 17th August 2013. LOL yea thats within a year alright. Your maths is shocking.

try Nov 2013 till now. Just have u an extra month to boot too lol.

Must be August this month!!!

Both your Maths and english are terrible!!

Merry Xmas all!

jonneymendoza · 19 Dec 2014 at 11:08

dannyjo22 said:
I have highlighted the or SO bit again because you seem to have trouble understanding your own posts. August 2013 IS a year or SO ago.

Don't ever buy shoes with laces, stick to velcro.

i mean this past year ie 12months.

so show me a post 12months ago stating i want wenger out?

go on i will post u an arsenal shirt as a xmas gift.

bignev72 said:
http://www.espnfc.co.uk/arsenal/sto...y-on-at-arsenal-by-majority-of-voters-in-poll

Oh dear

a poll gathered by sun. nuff said

jonneymendoza · 19 Dec 2014 at 11:39

LOL not one of those posts actually said i want wenger gone.

keep trying

All those are asking others who still backs wenger and whether they think he should be sacked.

O dear you really need to go take some English lessons.

jonneymendoza · 19 Dec 2014 at 11:55

twist3d0n3 said:
so in other words, you do want him gone, you're just too afraid to say it without anyone else backing you up.

you sound a bit unsure of your own decisions jonneyboi!

nope in other words i wait till end of season to see what we have achieved and also what happens during teh summer transfer window too.

see i aint fickle like most here. i judge end of season achievements and what we do during the summer.

Last season we competed for the title for most of the season and won a cup. thats progress and why i stuck with wenger.

Summer we looked good at getting a few early signings done but we failed to complete the job by getting defenders and its cost us.

we have started this season poorly and for my expectations of us achieving similar to last season ie competeing for title and maybe as a bonus win a cup or so is not looking great.

Here is what i would like to happen for wenger to stay and not me asking for his head:

plug the obvious gaps in our side, dm, cb's etc
get rid of dead weight ie rosisky, diaby
rotoate players more frequently instead of running them down(DM has wrote an essay about this)
win/draw against the very best sides away from home
Get further into the CL
Fix obvious defensive issues

Bonus stuff i like:

Compete for title late on this season
reclaim FA Cup

So i have kind of lowered my expectations as what i primarily want to see is an improvement in performance, less injuries etc more then actual winning things or competing for teh title as we have already blown it.

Basically wenger needs to transform his ways. get rid of the old stubborn wenger and bring back the wenger who went a whole season unbeaten destroying teams for fun and having a rock solid defence.

Nowadays a pub team can score a few goals against us.

dannyjo22 said:
It happens a lot with the early on set of dementia. The signs are all there...

Anyway I have wasted enough time on someone who clearly needs help. I don't want it to look like a bullying, like the singling out you used to get of the slow kid at school. I have presents to wrap, far more interesting than sticking Wenger out into a search engine

You have failed to find a single post saying i want wenger out LOL.

unlucky. no free arsenal shirt for you

jonneymendoza · 19 Dec 2014 at 12:34

twist3d0n3 said:
apart from asking if others want the manager gone almost on a weekly basis.

haha not at all. fickle means u as a person only supports and praise a team when they are winning

Anyways looks like ive won this debate yet again

we will resume this time next year again when you refer to the same August 2013 post next year in 2015 two years past ha

merry xmas

jonneymendoza · 19 Dec 2014 at 12:47

twist3d0n3 said:
like you and DM.

you've won nothing, just like arsenal of the last 10 years (aside from a cup)!

nope more like barcelona. always winning

I know it hurts you and others to admit defeat

jonneymendoza · 19 Dec 2014 at 13:07

twist3d0n3 said:
you really are in another world.

and for that reason, i give up. you can't treat a potato (any) tricks.

Says the person who has been proven wrong.

Still waiting on an actual post of me saying i want wenger sacked over the past year.

Until you provide that link, you have lost your argument about me being fickle.

First people say i change my mind ever week, then quotes a load of nonsense post about me asking who still backs/wants wenger out?

LOL it is you my dear that needs some english lessons as you cannot and refuse to grasp simple bog standard english written posts.

So, I am still waiting for your so called example within 12-14months of me saying i want wenger out

O and examples of within those said months that i wanted wenger gone one week, and want him to stay the other.

jonneymendoza · 19 Dec 2014 at 14:27

thecremeegg said:
Whilst I agree with your points on Wenger, calling people out on their English skills is a bit rich....do you read your posts?

Yes i do but others dont know how to read simple english.

If they did then they would not be quoting rubbish that doesnt prove their point.

things like "Do you think wenger is the man for the job" does not equal to "i as in jonneymendoza want wenger to be sacked now!"

These people really need to check themselves first before judging me on my understanding of english.

jonneymendoza · 19 Dec 2014 at 16:41

div0 said:
So what you're trying to tell us is that 2013 & 2014 has been all about your support for Wenger

But 2011 & 2012 was all stuff like this....

What can we expect next season?

After demonstrating such a long, unbroken period of support, I'm sure Wenger has you on his Christmas card list this year.

Old 18th Feb 2012, 19:01

jonneymendoza · 19 Dec 2014 at 16:58

div0 said:
Do you even read?

do u or anyone else?

Old 18th Feb 2012, 19:01 does not equal to proving i have changed my tune week in week out this past year.

Keyword YEAR.

Please read up how many months make up a Year .

jonneymendoza · 19 Dec 2014 at 17:44

Purdy said:
I get the impression he is not in the slight bit embarrassed or feels like he is wrong in anyway.

Well if you or anyone can show me a post saying i specifically want wenger out in the past 12months(that is 365 days by the way) then i will admit i am wrong.

It is others here who cannot admit they are wrong.

You expect me to admit something that is not true?

LOL

jonneymendoza · 19 Dec 2014 at 18:40

Poor man's version of saying sorry u are correct jonneymendoza u have not changed your tune for over a year

jonneymendoza · 19 Dec 2014 at 21:28

Nate75 said:
football thread turned into witch hunt, pretty poor :/

tell me about it. These lot just want to bully me making false nonsense about me. sad

div0 said:
What are you talking about?

Read my post, I quoted and replied to your own question about when you last posted about sacking Wenger. My own post pointed out that the quotes were from 2011/12.

Then you randomly started posting about how many days there are in a year, like it had any relevance to my post.

So again, do you even read?

No what are you chatting about? my question in bold and in big writings so you can actually read it properly instead of ignoring it is this:

SHOW ME A POST WITHIN THE LAST YEAR(12MONTHS) WHERE I SPECIFICALLY SAID I WANTED WENGER OUT

Is the above question large enough for you to read and grasp?

If so, Go and post evidence to back up that i am a fickle fan that posts week in week out want wenger out or to stay.

You seriously need to read carefuly.

If you did not understand the original and i mean ORIGINAL question that started this whole debate in clear damm BOLD in massive writing, then either dont post here or clarify what the words like Year means and the likes of the meaning of the whole context of the question.

christ give me strength . i feel for these guys here. i really do!

jonneymendoza · 20 Dec 2014 at 13:33

Gilly said:
Jonney, just leave it, it's boring. Everyone knows you and what you stand for and ignoring what everyone says for your own state of mind is fine; just leave it now.

Why not tell all involved including me to drop it instead of highlighting only i should leave it while others make false information about me?

I'm happy to drop it if others do. Takes two(in this case a dozen) to tango so to speak