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Soldato
she's not "one of", she is the oldest operating host at this point in the story.
Caporegime
Saw the nerdest YT vid about timelines and now everything makes so much more sense!
Soldato
Chuck a link at us. How many timelines does this nerd speak of - two or three?
Caporegime
Sorry, its Nerdist.
Beware, it could be spoilers.
Beware, it could be spoilers.
I counted 3 timeline but it could be 4?
Soldato
Three sounds about right. I thought I was going crazy.
Associate
Because at the end of episode three, before Dolores shoots Rebus and escapes the barn she glitches to a memory of the MiB. Then, having escaped, she rides off and encounters Logan and William. For the theory that this is an older timeline to work, how could she have a memory of the MiB as an older man? I know the previous timeline idea is quite popular, but there do seem to be some large holes that need explaining!
Soldato
This is where they lost you. They made it look like she rides off and encounters Logan and William. She does ride off (in the later timeline), but when you see her stumble out of the woods and pass out in Logan's arms, it's a different, prior timeline. As simple as that?
The thing that would bother me with the alternate timelines and William being the MIB is that they look nothing like each other and William is already what, 30? He is hardly going to look like a completely different person when he is 55 or so.
The most interesting part of that episode was when the "butchers" were talking and the ginger one said to Felix something like "I'm surprised they didn't catch that personality trait in the embryo " . I can't remember the exact quote.
The most interesting part of that episode was when the "butchers" were talking and the ginger one said to Felix something like "I'm surprised they didn't catch that personality trait in the embryo " . I can't remember the exact quote.
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Man of Honour
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Just watched the first episode, wow, fantastic stuff. Now to catch up 
Soldato
I didn't think it was embryo. I thought it was more along the lines of recruitment process, but could be wrong. I've just deleted it too... could have checked.
Soldato
I don't think it's that bad and far off (in terms of what can be achieved without going into heavy CGI) - they have the same hair and eye colour, beauty mark on the same cheek, roughly the same jawline. We've had worse in movies.
Plus, if they were too similar or worse yet - played by the same actor you would immediately know the "twist" - and that wouldn't be as much fun?
Soldato
Found it. Something like "Jesus, how the hell did you get this job if you're scared ****less of these things? Personality testing should have weeded you out in the embryo"
Interesting. But 'get this job'? Does that mean he applied like a human, or they sort hosts into different areas?
I'm quite liking this so far. I just hope they manage to tie up the numerous hanging plot points that currently exist (and are still being introduced..)
Regarding the ongoing dual time-line theory; If we are indeed seeing the story being played out 30 years prior to the scenes with the MIB, then why is it that the hosts are not visibly inferior to those we see in the supposed future time-line? The failings of the earlier models (in specific, the way they move) was clearly mentioned in a previous episode, by Hopkins character.
On another note. The most interesting part of this episode in my opinion, was when one of the technicians mentioned using VR for his own entertainment. Although this wasn't fully explained, it lends credence to my belief that the "dream" sequences in which Hopkins character (and others) talk to the hosts is occasionally carried out within some form of VR construct, probably to avoid disrupting the clients activites.
Regarding the ongoing dual time-line theory; If we are indeed seeing the story being played out 30 years prior to the scenes with the MIB, then why is it that the hosts are not visibly inferior to those we see in the supposed future time-line? The failings of the earlier models (in specific, the way they move) was clearly mentioned in a previous episode, by Hopkins character.
On another note. The most interesting part of this episode in my opinion, was when one of the technicians mentioned using VR for his own entertainment. Although this wasn't fully explained, it lends credence to my belief that the "dream" sequences in which Hopkins character (and others) talk to the hosts is occasionally carried out within some form of VR construct, probably to avoid disrupting the clients activites.
that all seems a bit pointless though if the player can't be killed. you might get a bit of a punching it seems but that's hardly levelling the playing field.
Man of Honour
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All caught up - the joy of being off work. Ridiculously good so far.
If you want to watch this to listen to them explain the timelines feel free to skip to 1:30. Wow, her voice is annoying.
People can, and have, died in Westworld. Part of the promo for the show was the release of the 'Delos Terms & Conditions'. You can find it on reddit here - https://www.reddit.com/r/westworld/comments/560gz8/westworlds_full_terms_of_service_explains_how/
It specifically states that loss of life has happened in the park. It also contains a piece on the safety features of the guns/ammo:
In regards to the MiB:
From the few clues here and there in the script, I think he's terminally ill and intends to die in the park. I believe he thinks the 'centre of the maze' will allow him to enter a game scenario which will remove all safeguards from the game and allow him to go out in style - him vs westworld with no gun/ammo tech to help him.
Caporegime
Urgh, I hate fan theories. I've no doubt that whatever people are coming up with will be wrong.
I always think back to all the nonsense people came up with to explain what happened in Matrix Reloaded before Revolutions came out. It was utter drivel and, of course, all wrong. People love to overthink these things.
I always think back to all the nonsense people came up with to explain what happened in Matrix Reloaded before Revolutions came out. It was utter drivel and, of course, all wrong. People love to overthink these things.