What a *******!

FrostedNipple · 18 Jul 2008 at 12:37

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/7513123.stm

The car flipped onto the south-bound side and into the path of an oncoming Peugeot, killing its driver.

It left the Peugeot driver, who has not yet been identified, with serious injuries and he died at the scene.

The male driver of the Mitsubishi was also severely injured and was due to undergo surgery at the University Hospital of North Durham.

He should be put down tbh!

Nick1881 · 18 Jul 2008 at 12:41

FrostedNipple said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/7513123.stm

He should be put down tbh!

Agreed.

Idiots out there, imagine it was someone you knew or your family that this happened to, doesnt bare thinking about

Crimefighter · 18 Jul 2008 at 12:41

FrostedNipple said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/7513123.stm

He should be put down tbh!

Acutally I think a more fitting punishment would for him to have a gruesome injury and live for a very long time.

mrk · 18 Jul 2008 at 12:42

Some "controlled" stop...

Spektor · 18 Jul 2008 at 12:43

I doubt this one will be making it into tonights episode of Cops with Cameras.

Van Hellseek · 18 Jul 2008 at 12:47

Chavs + Too much GTA = death.

Kerplunk · 18 Jul 2008 at 12:48

yep, death is quite a serious injury

Jebblehmoo · 18 Jul 2008 at 12:48

LordSplodge · 18 Jul 2008 at 12:49

FrostedNipple said:
He should be put down tbh!

Brain damage for life would be good.

FrostedNipple · 18 Jul 2008 at 12:51

LordSplodge said:
Brain damage for life would be good.

i was thinking that, but it would have to be the sort of brain damage that meant even though he is retarded, he is able to know he isn't normal, rather than the sort where you are just retarded without knowing.....if that makes sense.

Dr_Fartypants · 18 Jul 2008 at 12:51

Nobody wants to consider giving the police a portion of the blame for fishtailing him at 80+ mph?

Obviously the guy was an utter tool for stealing a car and then attempting to evade the police, but the motorway isn't exactly the most suitable place to try to bring a car to a "controled stop". Basic physics suggests loss of control will ensue. I'd be interested to see what police guidelines are situations such as this. Anyway, the IPCC is investigating the situation and I'm sure they will have all the facts.

wordy · 18 Jul 2008 at 12:57

Tbh they should've just let him die while making the peugeot driver was as comfortable as possible.

killsta · 18 Jul 2008 at 12:58

Dr_Fartypants said:
Nobody wants to consider giving the police a portion of the blame for fishtailing him at 80+ mph?

Obviously the guy was an utter tool for stealing a car and then attempting to evade the police, but the motorway isn't exactly the most suitable place to try to bring a car to a "controled stop". Basic physics suggests loss of control will ensue. I'd be interested to see what police guidelines are situations such as this. Anyway, the IPCC is investigating the situation and I'm sure they will have all the facts.

Nobody is to blame but the driver who stole the car.

And for your information, I think you'll find a motorway is THE best place to bring a vehicle to a 'controlled stop'.

FrostedNipple · 18 Jul 2008 at 13:00

Dr_Fartypants said:
Nobody wants to consider giving the police a portion of the blame for fishtailing him at 80+ mph?

Obviously the guy was an utter tool for stealing a car and then attempting to evade the police, but the motorway isn't exactly the most suitable place to try to bring a car to a "controled stop". Basic physics suggests loss of control will ensue. I'd be interested to see what police guidelines are situations such as this. Anyway, the IPCC is investigating the situation and I'm sure they will have all the facts.

You do know its only America that uses the retarded fishtail method right? Most country get several patrol cars and box him in then slow down to a stop, hes obviously been so stupid that hes tried to go up the grass verge resulting in him flipping. Are you seriously suggesting the police just let him swerve in and out of traffic on the motorway? That would still potential cause fatality's.

Muffin` · 18 Jul 2008 at 13:01

Dr_Fartypants said:
Nobody wants to consider giving the police a portion of the blame for fishtailing him at 80+ mph?

If they are not at fault why should they face blame? For the sake of someone needs to be held accountable? It's not fishtailing; it's surrounding the car and coming to a stop.

The manoeuvre is done all the time with great success, we don’t know what caused the car to flip over, so lets wait and see if it was a mistake of somebody in the manoeuvre, the criminal or negligence with the state of the barrier.

33L · 18 Jul 2008 at 13:03

i dont want him to live have a record - claim ben cos no one will hire him - or have a disability so that he can claim for even more.
over dose of aneastetic will do nicely for me!

its cheaper than fillnig up a jail with his sorry excuse for existence.

killsta · 18 Jul 2008 at 13:03

Muffin` said:
If they are not at fault why should they face blame? For the sake of someone needs to be held accountable? It's not fishtailing; it's surrounding the car and coming to a stop.

The manoeuvre is done all the time with great success, we don’t know what caused the car to flip over, so lets wait and see if it was a mistake of somebody in the manoeuvre, the criminal or negligence with the state of the barrier.

Indeed. Even if it were a 'mistake' of somebody performing the TPAC, it's still nobodies fault besides the guy failing to stop.

If he didn't try to run he wouldn't have killed an innocent MoP.

LordSplodge · 18 Jul 2008 at 13:03

FrostedNipple said:
i was thinking that, but it would have to be the sort of brain damage that meant even though he is retarded, he is able to know he isn't normal, rather than the sort where you are just retarded without knowing.....if that makes sense.

I know exactly what you mean and I agree.

Dr_Fartypants · 18 Jul 2008 at 13:07

killsta said:
Nobody is to blame but the driver who stole the car.

And for your information, I think you'll find a motorway is THE best place to bring a vehicle to a 'controlled stop'.

*shrug*

The guy who stole the car instigated the chain of events, but there were many other factors in the chain which ended with the death of an innocent road user. For example, it was the decision of the police officers to 'bring the car to a stop' in a particular way *at that exact time* that lead to the flip, and the crash with the car in the oncoming lane.

I'm not trying to say that the police officers were at fault neccesarily, or that they did anything wrong. None of us have enough information to make this statement (or otherwise) - that's the job of the IPCC. But to suggest that the stealing of the car was the only event of significance which lead to the death of the Peugeot driver is a fallacious argument.

wordy · 18 Jul 2008 at 13:07

Dr_Fartypants said:
Nobody wants to consider giving the police a portion of the blame for fishtailing him at 80+ mph?

Obviously the guy was an utter tool for stealing a car and then attempting to evade the police, but the motorway isn't exactly the most suitable place to try to bring a car to a "controled stop". Basic physics suggests loss of control will ensue. I'd be interested to see what police guidelines are situations such as this. Anyway, the IPCC is investigating the situation and I'm sure they will have all the facts.

Nope if this ******** didn't steal the car and refuse to stop then an innocent person wouldn'tve been killed.