What can happen when it all goes wrong

Jesus. What a story.

What I don't understand is why he was jailed. Sure, he lost control of his car, which is bad. But 12 months in prison? The biker hit his stationary car. The car should not have been straddled across the road but surely the biker should be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear.

It seems odd that theives and vilans get away with far less when this bloke was sentance to 12 months in jail?

He could have been any one of us on here...
 
He is/was a regular on CTRO and was on a run a few other Civic Type-Rs.

Maybe too extreme a sentence in my opinion, considering his accounts of being guilty from the get go. A guy in Burnley was in a stolen car speeding, with no license or insurance and killed a 3 year old girl, he served 6 weeks. He was caught again behind the wheel and got 6 months.

At least Dan (10 pence short) has a reformed attitude and has taken his punishment maturely and seriously.

EDIT, done some digging on CTRO:

A short version of what happened.

Half a dozen of us followed Dan onto the A686 road during a break on the Lakes run March 2006.

Dan lost control of his DC2 on a left hand bend.

Skids marks show that he was locked (on the offside only) in a straightline on the wrong side of the road.

There was on coming motorbike.

Dan attempted to miss the bike by putting the DC2 off the road to the left, but sadly the motorcyclist hit the offside of the DC2.

The motorcyclist has suffered some degree of permanent disability to his right arm.

Thats probably as much as I should type here. I have tried to keep to the facts.
 
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[TW]Fox;10337140 said:
Jesus. What a story.

What I don't understand is why he was jailed. Sure, he lost control of his car, which is bad. But 12 months in prison? The biker hit his stationary car. The car should not have been straddled across the road but surely the biker should be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear.

Whether it makes a difference or not morally, though I suspect it would legally, the biker didn't die did he?

"I know that you were contacted by the injured rider before you went down, and would like to say that you seem genuinely remorseful."
 
[TW]Fox;10337140 said:
He could have been any one of us on here...

That really is a very sobering thought. One day your having a spirited drive, the next you've lost your life as you know it and possibily someone elses :(

Burnsy
 
[TW]Fox;10337140 said:
Jesus. What a story.

What I don't understand is why he was jailed. Sure, he lost control of his car, which is bad. But 12 months in prison? The biker hit his stationary car. The car should not have been straddled across the road but surely the biker should be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear.

It seems odd that theives and vilans get away with far less when this bloke was sentance to 12 months in jail?

He could have been any one of us on here...

My thoughts exactly. Alright he lost control of his car and crashed and it ended up in the middle of the road. Then a bike comes tear arsing round a corner and of course cant stop in time... What if there had been a tractor turning in the road? or some other form of obstruction? How can it be the car drivers fault if someone else cant stop in time?

He should have been punished for the cause of HIS accident... not the recklessness of the motorcyclist as well. If the bike came round the corner and could not stop in time then by default he was riding recklessly.

Ok a car straddled across the road isnt something you see everyday but if he didnt see it in time either it was a blind corner, in which case he was going too fast to stop, or it was seen but again he couldnt stop ( because he was riding too fast ). There is probably a lot more to it however so its maybe a lot different to how he described it.
 
Completely unnecessary sentence. Sending someone like that to jail, especially for that length of time, serves no purpose at all. Surely prison is meant to rehabilitate the convicted and protect the public? It's not as if this guy is going to go out and commit the same offense again. Anyone could have made the same mistake.

Also, did anyone see the story on the news yesterday about a 96-year-old man who was attacked and beaten on a train? Yet, the defendant was given no jail time and actually walked out of court grinning...:mad:

Makes me mad.
 
So effectively, if you swerve to avoid something else (be it a vehicle, obstacle, whatever) or loose control in severly icy conditions and someone ploughs into you, you could be jailed?

Surely it's part blame on the other party for not being prepared for the worst around the corner? I mean, I know in some respects it's impossible to judge from the story but if you can't see what's round the corner, generally you don't go hooning around it?

That seems a bit OTT!

Either way, shocking story :(
 
Is there anyone on this forum who can honestly put their hand on their heart and say they've never had a single 'oh crap' moment when out driving? Ever? The sort of thing where pure luck and circumstances were the only thing that either kept you on the road or, if you left it, didn't leave you in the situation this bloke was in?
 
[TW]Fox;10337287 said:
Is there anyone on this forum who can honestly put their hand on their heart and say they've never had a single 'oh crap' moment when out driving? Ever? The sort of thing where pure luck and circumstances were the only thing that either kept you on the road or, if you left it, didn't leave you in the situation this bloke was in?


I can say that. Been driving 8 years now and so far *touch wood* ive never had a brown trouser moment like that. I did bump into the back of someone at a junction though due to me assuming he was making his turn when he wasnt :p
 
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