What Can You Do?

SpicyDuck · 20 Apr 2006 at 16:41

Today, I set out to buy lunch, get some cash back in order to post something and then go home to eat lunch and relax.

Now, I went to the shop but the till assistant forgot to give me my money and I never realised 'til I was down the street. Now, just by chance, I happened to realise my error in front of 3 scruffy little chavs.

I turned around sharply, as you do when you've forgotten £15, in order to make my way back. Now, thinking back a little bit, these chavs must've thought it was there presence which made me turn and start walk away from them. So, thinking they had the upper-hand they walked side-by-side with me and just looked at me. :confused:

So it goes like this:

Me: What are you looking at?
Chav #1: WHAT LAD? WHAT?
Me: I said. What.. are... you... looking... at?
Chav #1: Think your hard lad?
Me: In what context?
Chav #1: WHAT? (Clearly doesn't know what the word context means)

I just carried on walking at this point. Then they slow down and they're behind me. Thinking they might've grown up I carry on to get my £15 from the supermarket.

Then a ball flys past me. I guess it was aimed at me but it was a terrible shot. I thought about kicking it over the road but considering there were 3 chavs and I've only had 3 hours sleep in the last 28 hours, I thought better of it.

So I ignore it and carry on. Then Chav #1 runs past me to collect his ball, flicks it up a little to look cool (read: pathetic) and does one of those "It looks like I'm gonna kick it at you, but I'm not really" thing.

Now, I was ok up to this point. I was going to let it pass. But I flinched and I felt embarassed at them laughing at me. So I go into keyboard warrior mode, which is not very keyboard like.

Me: Listen. **** Off, before you really **** me off.
Chav #1: COME ON THEN YEH ***!

He doesn't advance towards me at this point. So I walk off confused. :confused:

. So I walk ahead and they're way behind so I finally think that's the end. Anyway, to cut this short...

I carry on and Chav #2 who is the bigger of them all starts walking up to me from behind. Shouting all sorts of abuse about how he's gonna "proper knock me head off like" and quite frankly, I was in a rage at this point and told him if he didn't shut up that I would shut him up and that WOULD be the end of the matter.

Obviously, my "non-obvious" Liverpool accent and style of dressing made them think I'm easy to fight or whatever, I dunno. But he persisted but I was at the shop entrance at this point and just walked in.

It just so happens that I used to work there and my brother is the Grocery Manager. So lots of people came out etc blah blah. I didn't want a big scene so I told everyone to get inside and waited for the chavs to get bored and walk away.

Anyway, I just think it's terrible, you know? I didn't provoke this kind of attack on myself in any way whatsoever. These guys wanted a fight and I had to restrain myself as best as I could from really hurting Chav #2. Luckily, I got to the shop entrance before I lost it.

Just all mad and aggrivated right now. :mad:

. Needed to rant.

*sigh*

Edit: Sorry about the poor spelling etc, rantety rant style.

Phil.

KaHn · 20 Apr 2006 at 16:44

How old were they?

KaHn

Mic · 20 Apr 2006 at 16:44

OvertoneBliss said:
Chav #1: Think your hard lad?
Me: In what context?
Chav #1: WHAT? (Clearly doesn't know what the word context means)

Is that what you said, or what looking back in it, you whish you had said.

Sic · 20 Apr 2006 at 16:45

was chatting with Big Chris about these guys a few weeks ago. i dont know how they get up in the morning and are ok with the fact that everyone in the world thinks they're a bunch of scumbags. i dont mean chavs, but scumbags in general - why do they think that's ok?! i'd die before people thought that stuff about me.

glad you didnt get your head kicked in Phil...as your mate: it's going to happen one day if you keep being lippy to groups of people; you never know who's about

Arcade Fire · 20 Apr 2006 at 16:47

I'm amazed that you didn't get your head stuck through a wall.

SpicyDuck · 20 Apr 2006 at 16:48

KaHn said:
How old were they?

KaHn

About 18-20 I'd say. I'm 21, so out-done already, really.

Sic, maybe I was being a bit of a smart ass but I seriously didn't think anything of it at first until. It was Chav #2 that really got to me. Big mouth, ugly face, scruffy, horrible scouse accent. Disgusting.

Mic, I said that. Looking back, I wish I had said less and just sorted it out from the get-go. But that's being too keyboard warrior like.

Phil.

Nitefly · 20 Apr 2006 at 16:50

Sic said:
i dont mean chavs, but scumbags

Hoorah! Someone else has realised not all 'chav's are horrible people. Its just a shame a lot of scumbags actually happen to be 'chav's hence the bad rep... :/

Sic · 20 Apr 2006 at 16:51

OvertoneBliss said:
Sic, maybe I was being a bit of a smart ass but I seriously didn't think anything of it at first until. It was Chav #2 that really got to me. Big mouth, ugly face, scruffy, horrible scouse accent. Disgusting.

seriously dude, it's all well and good being intellectually superior, but you aren't going to feel so good about yourself when you're in traction with a baseball bat growing out of your mouth.

these guys dont give a crap what they do to you, and they'll get away with it, so just watch out - especially if you're near your house...the last thing you want is them finding out where you live

SpicyDuck · 20 Apr 2006 at 16:55

Sic said:
seriously dude, it's all well and good being intellectually superior, but you aren't going to feel so good about yourself when you're in traction with a baseball bat growing out of your mouth.

these guys dont give a crap what they do to you, and they'll get away with it, so just watch out - especially if you're near your house...the last thing you want is them finding out where you live

You're absolutely right. I spoke to my next door neighbour afterwards and she said they're bad news.

When you're angry like that though, thinking clearly is difficult. All I'm thinking is "Ok, so when is it that these 3 guys jump on me and beat the crap out of me?" ya know?

She told me that the guy two doors from me is my age and REALLY looks like he can handle himself, and they gave him a good beating. So I guess I'm lucky to "escape". :rolleyes:

Phil.

Sic · 20 Apr 2006 at 16:57

OvertoneBliss said:
You're absolutely right. I spoke to my next door neighbour afterwards and she said they're bad news.

When you're angry like that though, thinking clearly is difficult. All I'm thinking is "Ok, so when is it that these 3 guys jump on me and beat the crap out of me?" ya know?

She told me that the guy two doors from me is my age and REALLY looks like he can handle himself, and they gave him a good beating. So I guess I'm lucky to "escape".

Phil.

yeah. take her advice. steer clear and keep it shut. i can *probably* (never been in a fight so i wouldnt know) handle myself against your average guy, but as soon as they're bigger than me, or more than one of them i'm not scared to scarper. i'm not stupid, and neither are you.

reflex · 20 Apr 2006 at 17:01

I know how you feel mate. I live in Devon in a really nice area it still doesnt stop gangs looking to beat people up, i remember 1 time i popped about a 1minute walk down the road for the happy shopper to buy some milk and i got asked,

"You got a problem"

unaturally i said yes and said u walk like a f'in retard (he was walking slow infront of me blocking me), i was abit anoyed cos i lost a clan-match (haha) and they just walked off(hope the kid felt embaressed.)

Other times im just walking my dog, or going to a friends and im usually on my own this makes me a target for abuse, i tend to ignore it unless im in a real bad mood. You did the right thing mate and i understand how you feel when a gang of them single out you.

G|mp · 20 Apr 2006 at 17:03

You started it by saying "what you looking at" in the first place

They should have give you a good shoeing tbh

holly35 · 20 Apr 2006 at 17:04

What idiots!!! I hate people like that, being a girl i dont get it that much and i dress quite plainly so i don draw attnetion to myself. Now iv got older I can kinda rise above them, id like to think i could tell them where to stick it but im really timid so id probably just poo myself and cry! (not literally poo myself)

Glad youre ok though, theyll hopefully grow up one day!

richyfingers · 20 Apr 2006 at 17:05

Yea like sic has said you are best just avoiding confrontation at all costs, even if it does mean running away, fighting should be a last resort. With these sorts of people you never know what they might do or might be carrying, not worth getting stabbed over.

A few years ago I would probably have been a smart arse and given them some verbal back and ended up in a scrap, and with three if them that’s not a good thing. It’s only since I’ve learned a proper defence technique (krav maga) that I have realised how silly it is to react this way, I’ll take the wounded pride over a wounded spleen!

SpicyDuck · 20 Apr 2006 at 17:07

G|mp said:
You started it by saying "what you looking at" in the first place

They should have give you a good shoeing tbh

I hate you.

I didn't start it. They started it by intimidating and starring at me at the same time, actually. Or were you there?

Phil.

[TW]Fox · 20 Apr 2006 at 17:08

Right, two things.

a) You said to these guys, before they had even spoken to you 'What are you looking at'? And you are accusing THEM of being the chavs?

b) Why does this stuff happen so often to people on this forum? I can't remember the last time I got abuse off a random stranger.

Kol · 20 Apr 2006 at 17:09

OvertoneBliss said:
So it goes like this:

Me: What are you looking at?

I wouldn't say it was totally unprovoked!

OvertoneBliss said:
Anyway, I just think it's terrible, you know? I didn't provoke this kind of attack on myself in any way whatsoever.

SpicyDuck · 20 Apr 2006 at 17:13

[TW]Fox said:
Right, two things.

a) You said to these guys, before they had even spoken to you 'What are you looking at'? And you are accusing THEM of being the chavs?

b) Why does this stuff happen so often to people on this forum? I can't remember the last time I got abuse off a random stranger.

a) Picture it... three guys starring at you, what do you do? You don't know them? I asked them what they were looking at. What the hell is wrong with that?

b) I dunno why it oftens. Why in the hell do you ALWAYS expect me to answer all the worlds problems everytime I post a thread?

I take it you think I'm making this stuff up, too? Jesus.

Phil.

Bunka · 20 Apr 2006 at 17:14

[TW]Fox said:
b) Why does this stuff happen so often to people on this forum? I can't remember the last time I got abuse off a random stranger.

Good point, i live near one of the dodgiest areas in the city, yet i haven't had any abuse in years, apart from the occasional few words when out in town or something which is normal really. Maybe it's just my whole manner, you should just act confident, don't stare at the floor and don't look obviously dodgy people in the eye for too long and you wont cause any trouble, fairly simple really.

SpicyDuck · 20 Apr 2006 at 17:14

So, if three guys stare at you, that's ok?

This forum makes me laugh sometimes. I'd love for you to be in that situation and not say or do anything.

Phil.