What causing my PC crashes?

Archii · 11 May 2021 at 22:38

Hello all,

I'm fairly new to PC gaming and overclocking so forgive my ignorance.

So when running my PC is completely stock mode, it's completely fine. No issues, no crashes.
The moment I try overclocking, it crashes when gaming on Call of Duty Warzone.
It crashes when:
- Everything in Bios is default
- But, turbo mode is enabled
- That's it. No XMP, no manual OC, nothing.

Naturally, I've tried some manual overclocking and it crashes too. I just set everything to default and enabled one thing at a time to see if it crashes. Just simply enabling turbo mode is enough for it to crash.

In Task Manager, it sits consistently at 4.79GHz when gaming - no more, no less, doesn't fluctuate.
CPU temps don't ever get that high and nor do GPU temps. I have a custom EK water cooling solution for the CPU

My PC specs:
- i9 10850k
- Asus Prime Z590-P (running latest update)
- Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 VISION OC
- Team Group Xtreem "8Pack Edition" 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 PC4-32000C18 4000MHz Quad Channel Kit - Blac
- 1Kw PSU
- WD Black 1TB SN750 M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen3 Solid State
- 2TB HDD via SATA

Can anyone help please? I'd love to run ~5GHz with no stability issues

Thanks!

Haze · 12 May 2021 at 07:41

Why do you want to overclock it with a spec like that? What do you plan on gaining?

montymint · 12 May 2021 at 07:51

Why 5ghz? As the above post states if there’s no gains from it don’t bother. It’s not like it was 10 years ago where significant gains were had from overclocking.

but if you need that clock you need more voltage on the cpu to help with stability

Archii · 12 May 2021 at 07:56

The games that I play, Warzone for example, are quite CPU intensive, where an overclock would yield higher frames.

I play in tournaments and stream and make YouTube videos from them, so I gain a tangible advantage through more frames

Joxeon · 12 May 2021 at 08:15

What voltage have you been trying for manual OCs?

montymint · 12 May 2021 at 08:16

Archii said:
The games that I play, Warzone for example, are quite CPU intensive, where an overclock would yield higher frames.

I play in tournaments and stream and make YouTube videos from them, so I gain a tangible advantage through more frames

what monitor do you use and what FPS do you get now?

Archii · 12 May 2021 at 08:17

Joxeon said:
What voltage have you been trying for manual OCs?

I didn't change them, I left them on auto.

Archii · 12 May 2021 at 08:19

montymint said:
what monitor do you use and what FPS do you get now?

I use a 144Hz 1440p ROG monitor. I get between 90 to 130fps. I want to be consistently getting over 144hz and more importantly not have the small frame drops.
Yes, vast majority of people won't notice them, but I do

Joxeon · 12 May 2021 at 08:24

Archii said:
I didn't change them, I left them on auto.

Try locking the cores to 5ghz and set vcore to 1.35v, if it's stable keep reducing voltage till it crashes then up it again slightly.
If it's not stable then drop clocks to 4.9 etc.

Archii · 12 May 2021 at 08:31

Joxeon said:
Try locking the cores to 5ghz and set vcore to 1.35v, if it's stable keep reducing voltage till it crashes then up it again slightly.
If it's not stable then drop clocks to 4.9 etc.

Thank you

I will try this!
Will report back after work

VaderDSL · 12 May 2021 at 08:38

What power supply do you have?

Archii · 12 May 2021 at 08:42

VaderDSL said:
What power supply do you have?

Woops forgot to say, it's a 1Kw PSU

Archii · 12 May 2021 at 12:08

Joxeon said:
Try locking the cores to 5ghz and set vcore to 1.35v, if it's stable keep reducing voltage till it crashes then up it again slightly.
If it's not stable then drop clocks to 4.9 etc.

Archii · 12 May 2021 at 12:40

So I had:
Xmp enabled.
Turbo enabled
Core ratio - sync all cores.
Ratio limit - 50 - 5GHz turbo.
CPU core voltage - 1.35

Crashed when loading up a game then went to blue screen everytime I restarted

Meddling-Monk · 12 May 2021 at 13:31

Do you happen to know what the motherboard VRM temperatures are at roughly when it fails/crashes?

Randomface74 · 12 May 2021 at 13:37

You should put everything back to stock because that works.

You don't know what you're doing so don't try to overclock.

Archii · 12 May 2021 at 13:41

billysielu said:
You should put everything back to stock because that works.

You don't know what you're doing so don't try to overclock.

Just because something isn't easy doesn't mean you shouldn't try. Not very helpful.

Archii · 12 May 2021 at 13:43

Meddling-Monk said:
Do you happen to know what the motherboard VRM temperatures are at roughly when it fails/crashes?

I don't, I can keep an eye on that next time.

In theory I shouldn't be having any thermal issues with my build. Lian Li 011-D with 9 fans (overkill I know)..

Meddling-Monk · 12 May 2021 at 14:06

Archii said:
I don't, I can keep an eye on that next time.

In theory I shouldn't be having any thermal issues with my build. Lian Li 011-D with 9 fans (overkill I know)..

If the VRM in the BIOS is set to T.Probe, it often causes the VRM to fluctuate when it feels like the temperature is too high caused from high power delivery, then throttling power delivered to the CPU, which can cause it to freeze or crash if it's been set to overclock, which appears to be what you have atttempted; both manual and auto have issues. Suggesting the VRM might "feel" like it's struggling and trying to throttle the power to keep cool, but it's not enough for the CPU.

As for the amount of fans, I agree that is a fair amount, but if the power delivery is tucked away in a bad spot and not connected to its heatsink well where your fans can hit it with cool air, it won't amount to much in keeping it cool (and not throttling power when it thinks its a bit hot). Currently trying to look for info on the VRM right now for this board and what its hooked up to for cooling.

Archii · 12 May 2021 at 14:13

Meddling-Monk said:
If the VRM in the BIOS is set to T.Probe, it often causes the VRM to fluctuate when it feels like the temperature is too high caused from high power delivery, then throttling power delivered to the CPU, which can cause it to freeze or crash if it's been set to overclock, which appears to be what you have atttempted; both manual and auto have issues. Suggesting the VRM might "feel" like it's struggling and trying to throttle the power to keep cool, but it's not enough for the CPU.

As for the amount of fans, I agree that is a fair amount, but if the power delivery is tucked away in a bad spot and not connected to its heatsink well where your fans can hit it with cool air, it won't amount to much in keeping it cool (and not throttling power when it thinks its a bit hot). Currently trying to look for info on the VRM right now for this board and what its hooked up to for cooling.

That's great info, thank you. There multiple heat sinks, might be connected to one of those?

Which VRM setting should I change in BIOS then?

What causing my PC crashes?

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