What causing my PC crashes?

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Hello all,

I'm fairly new to PC gaming and overclocking so forgive my ignorance.

So when running my PC is completely stock mode, it's completely fine. No issues, no crashes.
The moment I try overclocking, it crashes when gaming on Call of Duty Warzone.
It crashes when:
- Everything in Bios is default
- But, turbo mode is enabled
- That's it. No XMP, no manual OC, nothing.

Naturally, I've tried some manual overclocking and it crashes too. I just set everything to default and enabled one thing at a time to see if it crashes. Just simply enabling turbo mode is enough for it to crash.

In Task Manager, it sits consistently at 4.79GHz when gaming - no more, no less, doesn't fluctuate.
CPU temps don't ever get that high and nor do GPU temps. I have a custom EK water cooling solution for the CPU

My PC specs:
- i9 10850k
- Asus Prime Z590-P (running latest update)
- Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 VISION OC
- Team Group Xtreem "8Pack Edition" 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 PC4-32000C18 4000MHz Quad Channel Kit - Blac
- 1Kw PSU
- WD Black 1TB SN750 M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen3 Solid State
- 2TB HDD via SATA

Can anyone help please? I'd love to run ~5GHz with no stability issues

Thanks!
 
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The games that I play, Warzone for example, are quite CPU intensive, where an overclock would yield higher frames.

I play in tournaments and stream and make YouTube videos from them, so I gain a tangible advantage through more frames
 
what monitor do you use and what FPS do you get now?

I use a 144Hz 1440p ROG monitor. I get between 90 to 130fps. I want to be consistently getting over 144hz and more importantly not have the small frame drops.
Yes, vast majority of people won't notice them, but I do
 
So I had:
Xmp enabled.
Turbo enabled
Core ratio - sync all cores.
Ratio limit - 50 - 5GHz turbo.
CPU core voltage - 1.35

Crashed when loading up a game then went to blue screen everytime I restarted
 
If the VRM in the BIOS is set to T.Probe, it often causes the VRM to fluctuate when it feels like the temperature is too high caused from high power delivery, then throttling power delivered to the CPU, which can cause it to freeze or crash if it's been set to overclock, which appears to be what you have atttempted; both manual and auto have issues. Suggesting the VRM might "feel" like it's struggling and trying to throttle the power to keep cool, but it's not enough for the CPU.

As for the amount of fans, I agree that is a fair amount, but if the power delivery is tucked away in a bad spot and not connected to its heatsink well where your fans can hit it with cool air, it won't amount to much in keeping it cool (and not throttling power when it thinks its a bit hot). Currently trying to look for info on the VRM right now for this board and what its hooked up to for cooling.

That's great info, thank you. There multiple heat sinks, might be connected to one of those?

Which VRM setting should I change in BIOS then?
 
Looking on the asus site, it looks like it's situated under both of the large Heatsinks, above the CPU socket and the one to the left (under which is the rear IO panel). It may not be related, so nothing to be concerned with until you test and do find that it's skyrocketing before the system crashes, only then will you need to see about what can be done there.



In BIOS, it should be CPU Power Phase Control. T.Probe is the normal "safer" default option, there's no chance of accelerated wear on the VRM and no chance of damaging it from heat produced (hence why it throttles). You can switch it to Extreme, but you really need to keep an eye on the temps at that point.

I would suggest if this is an area of interest throughout your testing to change later on, that you get more info on the temps you're getting first on T.Probe setting so you know what the default temps Asus set as its considered "safe" zone. And try not to deviate too much afterwards from that when you switch to Extreme mode.

Thank you. Appreciate your help.

I will monitor these temps and see what it says
 
Interestingly, I had my bios in default settings XMP on (4GHz) and it crashed. Turbo was turned off.

Edit: just crashed again.
Default bios, xmp disabled, turbo enabled.

2nd edit:
Just crashed with everything in bios on default.
 
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What sofware have you got runing in the background , and what make of PSU are you using?

When gaming, I'll have the game, plus Discord and sometimes a VPN such as Cyberghost.
Sometimes I'll also have OBS Studio running too to stream what I'm playing to Twitch. But not always.

PSU is a Corsair hx1050
 
If it was me ( not saying you should ) and it keeps crashing over and over I would look at some other options like getting your money back ( might not work if you've tried to OC ) or take the whole thing apart and check everything by eye cables , connectors the lot making sure something isnt touching somewhere it shouldnt be everything you can think of, could even be a connector that come loose or faulty hardware

It's only started doing it recently though. I do completely understand what you mean and might try to do this.

Last night I inspected a minidump file from one of the crashes which pointed towards a memory fault.
So I ran the windows memory analysis tool, which found no issues

I gamed on the pc last night after that with no issues (default settings)
 
Update:

I reinstalled windows yesterday morning and have had no issues since.
Have been gaming with no OC without issue.
Then enabled xmp and continued to have no issues.
 
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