what do u think i may be offered for this from property developer?

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I live in 2 bed house with long narrow garden next to a disused factory they are going to pull in down and build 10 flats each costing 100K + the developer wants to meet me as they need to put scafolding down the length of my property for some time while tehy develop.

I use my small garden to entertain my son who stays at weekends, my dog and to hang out my washing, someone has suggested that I should ask kim whats in it for me. seeing how approx half the width of garden will be lost for a while.

garden is approx 15' wide and 70' long

cant I expect some compensation and how much do u think?
 
£5k will not be a big bit of their budget to lose and if there is no other way to carry out the work, they will pay you.

winnar!
 
$loth said:
Milk em for all it's worth?

It is your property afterall.

just keep saying no, if there is no-other way of them doing it, they will offer you big bucks! milk em for all its worth!
Ksut tell them how much you use the garded, and how much you will miss it, it will be a big disturbence for a long time. If they dont make a decent offer tell them to **** off, they will come back.
 
not sure re development but for maintenance you do have a right to use a neighbours property ( obviously you have to ask and then take it further if the don't like it ) if you need to do this to carry out work , in this case there is no need for a payment , at least this is how I understand it

not sure on new builds though
 
Also - don't go for a fixed price deal with them. They could be there a lot longer than they originally tell you!

Charge them X quid per week/month
 
What ever happend to the good old days of sure you can use my garden for a few weeks/months just leave it tidy or sumin, Now it's all hmm wonder how much i can fleece them for :( we become more like the yanks every day because of this attitude. :(
 
Offer them the use of your garden and house (including toilet & kettle) for the builders in return for the penthouse once it's been finished.

On a more serious note, without you granting them access they cant start so up the stakes to £10k?
 
roughlad said:
What ever happend to the good old days of sure you can use my garden for a few weeks/months just leave it tidy or sumin, Now it's all hmm wonder how much i can fleece them for :( we become more like the yanks every day because of this attitude. :(

This is a £1 Million development, not your average neighbour putting up a garden shed. The developers will profit, at his inconvenience. He uses his garden, so why should the developers have an assumed right to take it over for their financial gain?
 
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I would check the law first , it may be that he can apply for a right to do this at no cost but is prepared to pay something to make it easier , IF he has a right and you start demanding daft money then he may just say Stuff you" and go the legal route

of course if he has no rights then that is a different matter
 
go for a weekly figure :) :)


that way its a nice little earner

then you just go out and sabotage the site at night to drag it out :)


worse comes to worse steal their scaffold and cash it in for scrap value

aluminium is 73p a kilo atm :)
 
Ask him what he's willing to offer per week, when he tells you add on half of what he offered. He will most likley start low so 150% of his first offer should be easy for him.
 
Rotty said:
I would check the law first , it may be that he can apply for a right to do this at no cost but is prepared to pay something to make it easier , IF he has a right and you start demanding daft money then he may just say Stuff you" and go the legal route

of course if he has no rights then that is a different matter

surely he has no right whatsoever to be in your garden without your permission. Fleece them!
 
Oakesy2001uk said:
surely he has no right whatsoever to be in your garden without your permission. Fleece them!


in certain cases he can have , If I needed to do some work on my house which requierd me to use my neighbours land to do it then they can't stop me
 
Rotty said:
in certain cases he can have , If I needed to do some work on my house which requierd me to use my neighbours land to do it then they can't stop me

thats a bit strange, I would have thaught you cant do something with someones proporty without their permission.
Any neighbor would let a fellow neighbor obviously, but to allow a proporty developer do it, I wouldent, not for free. I would just sit where they were trying to put the scaffolding up and play with my dog, or build a swimming pool there or something! :D
 
Tbh I would tread carefully and get some party wall advice, Legislation has been passed which gives people access to neighbouring land to carry out essential repairs or building works on their own Property.

A developer maybe able to just serve you notice in the form of a Party Wall notice, if you fail to agree to the works you will need to appoint your own surveyor (sometimes at a cost to yourself) to over see the works.

I don’t think an internet forum is really the best place to seek advice, I would look up the RISC on the internet and perhaps speak to a qualified surveyor before you start dreaming of that new car / holiday
 
Oakesy2001uk said:
surely he has no right whatsoever to be in your garden without your permission. Fleece them!
Not so. There are a number of circumstances under which you CAN be forced to permit access. But they are limited in scope, and purpose.

Porkrind, the basic situation is this :-

1) There is no automatic right of access to your land
2) There may be a covenant in your deeds that cover "reasonable access". Check the deeds.
3) Party Wall etc. Act 1996 provides situations where access is defined by statute. See later in this post.
4) Access to Neighbouring Land Act 1992 provides for limited statutory right of acccess under certain conditions, but requires a County Court order.

So, you have the situation where he MIGHT be able to force access whether yiou want it or not, depending on exactly what he wants to do, why he wants to do it and the layout of the property.

Consider this, too. There are usually various ways of achieving a given objective. Some will be easy, others hard .... and therefore more expensive. So, if you follow the path advocated by Oaksey to "fleece 'em", you could find that they either go for Party Wall Act access, or even Neighbouring Land Act access, and accept that they have to pay some additional legal costs. Or, it could just mean that they have to do the work in a way that is more awkward, and expensive, but not as expensive as paying Oaksey's idea of a fleece payment.

Were I in your shoes, I would attempt to do this amicably. I would expect :-

1) Any costs to be reimbursed
2) The Any damage to be rectified at their expense .... including to plants, lawns, fences, etc
3) The time you will suffer the inconvenience to be defined
4) Compensation for loss of the facility of quiet enjoyment of your garden for the duration of the scaffolding being in place
5) Additional compensation for the schedule in 3) not being met.

Against that, you could consider if you need any jobs doing. It may be that a developer would rather fit some work in for you, than pay cash. That would certainly come into any calculations for an Award under the Party Walls Act, if that applies.

Oh, and IF the PWA applies, the other party is REQUIRED to serve you notice of intended work, and either get you consent or get arbitrating suryevors to go through a dispute resolution process. So, don't be surprised if an intimidating-looking letter going on about the PWA drops through your letter box. Even if they have your permission, in writing, they MUST comply with the dictats of that Act, if it applies. Whether it applies depends, as I said earlier, on what they're doing, and how far it is from your property, etc.

Nobody on this forum can tell you what you'll get. There's no agreed fee schedule for compensation, and so much depends on factors you can't know .... like what alternatives the developer has, and what the cost implications of them are. Developers will not throw away large sums, and there will almost certainly be alternative methods to paying you a large sum. And, should they opt for any of the legal routes, any attempt to gouge large sums from them won't enhance your case.

But, most developers would MUCH rather do things amicably, and will pay a premium to keep neighbours friendly and on-side, because they risk increased cost and, far worse than that, delays, if they don't.

My advice .... find out exactly what they're proposing, and get it in writing, especially in terms of start and stop date. Also, get the terms agreed in writing, as well as a provision for additional compensation them not meeting their dates .... such as putting the whole thing on a weekly (or part thereof) basis. I would also go after getting your compensation up-front, before work starts. You're in a much stronger position to be awkward before the job than you are in chasing money after it's finished. But, while you can expect compensation for loss of facilities, any damages, inconvenience, etc, keep it reasonable.
 
Its all very well asking for a bit of money, but i wouldnt try and sting them too much, remember that this new development will probably increase the value of your property now that its located next to some spangly new flats rather than a disused factory.
 
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