What do you Believe

neoduder said:
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And a few biblical contradictions just to finish off....
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All of those 'contradictions' are misinterpretations of the verses or taken out of context, not one of them is an actual contradiction

I haven't got time to explain it through, as I'm doing coursework at the moment
 
JodieG said:
I've read lots of science and physics, I'm not sure where I stand though as I said before. I would love there to be an afterlife, part of me thinks there is but some of me doesn't, it's difficult.

For all you know God made the stars and atoms, no one knows whether God did or not and I doubt we will until we die.
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Yes that's true, but God was 'invented' during a very superstitious age.

I do hope there's a afterlife also, but I very much doubt it. like everyone I dont want to die.
 
An afterlife would be nice, but I can't think about anything unless it's from a scientific standpoint - making it impossible for me to believe in one really. It's the unknown that fascinates me, I've always had this curiosity about death - I don't fear it, I'll welcome it when my time comes and get to find out what it's all about.
 
RDM said:
I don't think any of the major religions would agree with that suggestion. All it would do would be to bolster the number of agnostics in the world.
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It would certainly make it a level playing field, but what would be fun in that :rolleyes:
 
I believe in Me.

I make my choices, I live with the consequences. Some omnipotent being most assuredly has no bearing whatsoever on my life.
 
I believe the word "believe" implies that you have faith in something that doesn't really matter in the end. so, I KNOW the things my senses can process and I'm happy with that. No inner debates, no constant thinking "which of these stories SHOULD I believe in." It doesn't matter to me. :)
 
I believe many people are intolerant of each other and refuse to respect one another as proved in this thread and in life generally.

People aren't allowed to demonstrate failth or beliefs without their views being trampled, scoffed at or belittled.

I'm not entirely sure what my faith is at this stage in my life, but as an Italian/Irish descendent I have been amid Catholic influence in my early years.

Perhaps that's why I (at least) try to understand the views of others.

Maybe in our later years when the end is more imminent than it is now, our views will change in the hope its not simply 'lights out' when the curtain falls.
 
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Domo said:
Perhaps that's why I (at least) try to understand the views of others.

Maybe in our later years when the end is more imminent than it is now, our views will change in the hope its not simply 'lights out' when the curtain falls.
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But understanding is like a conversation its a two way thing. I dont care if there is a God or not, when im dead i'll cross that bridge when/if I come it, I think im a reasonably good person, i just get on with life and obide by the rules with some sense of morality, if theres no place for me in heaven then really i couldnt give a toss to be perfectly honest.

Also does no one ever quarel or fight in heaven must be one dull place if everyone walks around agreeing with each other? The more I think the more I think its a load of rubbish.
 
Science is the only answer for everything and for everything the only answer is Science.

Until there's hard physical evidence of a higher level of being often referred to as a God I wont believe that they exist. If there is such a being capable of supposed God-like abilities, prove it.

Anyone can believe in whatever they like, I'm not anti-religion in that I hate everyone who is religious. I respect their choice to believe in whatever, free will and all that.

I rely on science and technology to get me through the day, it pretty much applies to everything I do.
 
I believe life is too short, and that the wonders from subatomic particles and the forces that hold it together to the vastness of the universe are far more inspiring and mystifying than any old burning bush.

-Chimpdaddy-
 
One day i will simply cease to be.

Its not all bad. I have a feeling that when my time comes i wont be quite as afraid of it as i think i am. Its a natural progression and so many people have done it before me i dont see there is any point worrying about it.

If there is a heaven or even anything approximating a heaven then i will be pleasently suprised. If there isnt then i wont be dissapointed.

I think people tend towards religion as a way of describing and quantifying the one thing that they cannont understand and will not be able to have an answer for until its too late. I think if it helps people come to terms with the sheer scale of whats involved in death and afterlife etc then thats a good thing. I know i could never get my head round it all until i stopped trying and just accepted it as an eventuality. Its not a religion but its what i believe.

I never was and eventually i never will be. However i currently am so i have something to be greatful for :)
 
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JodieG said:
I've read lots of science and physics, I'm not sure where I stand though as I said before. I would love there to be an afterlife, part of me thinks there is but some of me doesn't, it's difficult.

For all you know God made the stars and atoms, no one knows whether God did or not and I doubt we will until we die.
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But are'nt you making a supposition that there are only two choices, death or an afterlife with a God.....what if the spirit lives on in a different dimension but there is no God?.

That's why to my mind Religions have been successful, it's a case of believe or damnation, without recourse to an afterlife without a God. Who exactly has provided any "real evidence" to form that opinion and have it taken as sacrasant.

Having read science and physics do you believe the evidence points to a God?. You are obviously aware of your own being but surelythat doesn't mean that your "inner self" has to be tied to the existence of a God does it?.


Just suppose the sentient growth of Man was such that until Darwin came up with evolution there were no other theories......would that then make him a Prophet to be idolised\revered if the general level of intelligence at the time was akin to that of the modern day Middle East?.

Colin Fry (a self proclaimed medium - and if you get the chance watch a couple of his shows some time - very interesting) has intimated that there is an afterlife but never says it is directly linked to a God, and has suggested that even the "bad" people (rapists\killers\thieves) live that same afterlife, which would pour scorn on the "be religious" or go to Hell provision of the "faiths".
 
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