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What does OCUK do to combat scalpers?

DrCheese said:
Aye - Unlike Nvidia think they understand that whilst they could make large, short-term profits by selling to scalpers/Cryptofarms, long term it causes damage as gamers withdraw from the market entirely or convert to console gaming. It's really admirable that OC have the mantra that they do.

Nvidia doing what they are doing is not sustainable long term - Eventually another company will catchup with them & eat the vast swabs of market they've decided to abandon.
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If only AMD had means and will to do that, maybe it would wake Nvidia up too and end up much better for customers with close to 30% of the market for each big player. As is now, Nvidia is behaving like monopolist.
 
Tinek said:
So, your solution to problems with buying luxury products is to get rid of consumer protection laws? You didn't put much thought into that, did you?
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In the UK, I would assume that it can only apply to extended return periods, but I don't know how long scalpers list something for sale before returning.
 
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Tetras said:
In the UK, I would assume that it can only apply to extended return periods, but I don't know how long scalpers list something for sale before returning.
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Ah yes, extended one are a different matter as that's seller's discretion and they can do whatever that want. That's fine. Scalpers know that and will start return within 14 days and then we'll have another 2 weeks to send it back usually. So it's a month - plenty of time for them.
 
Tinek said:
So, your solution to problems with buying luxury products is to get rid of consumer protection laws? You didn't put much thought into that, did you?
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You didn't think about it for 1 second did you. You can still return the item if faulty. Gifted GPU'S come with a warning for ignorant people who don't understand. So don't buy them as a gift.
 
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NiteSurfer said:
You didn't think about it for 1 second did you. You can still return the item if faulty. Gifted GPU'S come with a warning for ignorant people who don't understand. So don't buy them as a gift.
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Ok, so you really do advocate for them to take away your rights with distance selling. Your argument talk about just one possible outcome (faulty GPU) and completely ignore a huge list of other possibilities (wrong description, wrong product, unexpected compatibility issues, unwanted gift etc. etc. - it's a huge list and goes far beyond GPUs and the likes). But you, just so you can punish scalpers? apparently would like to get rid of all protection for everyone for all products. Zero logic, lots of misguided emotions. There's a saying about it - throw bathwater away with the child.
 
Tinek said:
Ok, so you really do advocate for them to take away your rights with distance selling. Your argument talk about just one possible outcome (faulty GPU) and completely ignore a huge list of other possibilities (wrong description, wrong product, unexpected compatibility issues, unwanted gift etc. etc. - it's a huge list and goes far beyond GPUs and the likes). But you, just so you can punish scalpers? apparently would like to get rid of all protection for everyone for all products. Zero logic, lots of misguided emotions. There's a saying about it - throw bathwater away with the child.
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Everything that is wrong with this industry, counter arguments with no productive answer. Go ahead and carry on sucking the thumb
 
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Bonse said:
I'm really intrigued as i missed out on 3080's etc due to scalping and the chip shortage.

It'd be great if you had to provide some sort of ID and limit sales to 1 per person.

I'll be so disappointed if i lose out on an XTX if i'm here on time for release and find out some scumbags buy 10 or so to sell on for +30% on.

Many thanks,

Tom
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Probably nothing mate

Business don't care who buys the graphics card, they just care about selling more
 
DrCheese said:
long term it causes damage as gamers withdraw from the market entirely or convert to console gaming. It's really admirable that OC have the mantra that they do.
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A lot of people seem to miss this. It isn't in the long term best interest of stores or manufacturers to ignore scalping as it harms the market. In a dog-eat-dog world, you end up with fewer and fewer dogs - which isn't good if you're selling chew toys.
 
Ergates said:
A lot of people seem to miss this. It isn't in the long term best interest of stores or manufacturers to ignore scalping as it harms the market. In a dog-eat-dog world, you end up with fewer and fewer dogs - which isn't good if you're selling chew toys.
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Yarp & as seen with crypto/scalpers your new high revenue stream can dry up quicker than a desert after a rainstorm. Then you're left with nothing, either because PC gaming has died off, or another competitor has eaten your previous market.
 
Ergates said:
A lot of people seem to miss this. It isn't in the long term best interest of stores or manufacturers to ignore scalping as it harms the market. In a dog-eat-dog world, you end up with fewer and fewer dogs - which isn't good if you're selling chew toys.
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The problem is that really there is very little the retailers can do, it's almost impossible to stop one person buying one card and putting up for sale on ebay.

It seems their current attitude is to pre-scalp items leaving very little headroom for the scalpers. This includes NVIDIA. But really, if we want something to stop them it's down to the government and as per usual they are dragging their feet. I find it incredibly frustrating how slowly the government moves.
 
I think a loyal customer that has, over time spent a lot of money in a certain place should be given preferential treatment when it comes to these things. Why should someone that has never spent anything get one? Even loyal forum members should be given first refusal.
 
Eddie99 said:
Because they're paying the same amount of money? :cry:
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Doesn’t matter. Loyalty should be rewarded.

I know someone that has a very good relationship with a certain place, and has spent thousands, always upgrades, monitors, full systems etc and he gets the new releases ever time without fail.
 
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