What does the pinnacle of android gaming look like?

If i uninstall the Marketplace updates, then use the marketplace fix then load it up i get Backbreaker THD showing up.

Moment i close it down and start the market back up the game doesnt show, no matter if i apply the fix again.
 
Yes, it works on the Desire HD as far as I know, but don't expect great performance as it's older tech, you might have to turn the textures down and what have you.
 
Robbo - Can you talk me thru rooting my phone on MSN? I'm lost!

My MSN address is lee.bryan AT overclockers.co.uk

My firmware is gingerbread 2.3! I fear that may cause me probs
 
You're already on my MSN, give me a shout when you want help although it's been a while since I rooted my Desire HD and I don't have it anymore!

I'll find the relevant XDA threads etc though.
 
Ace Modder said:
These yotube videos, i have a Desire HD, can I get these kind of games running on my phone?
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I'm running GOF2, Riptide and My First Trainz Set on my Desire HD with no issues - just had to select the 16bit texture option in Chainfire to give the performance a boost - haven't noticed the image quality being worse though!
 
Owenb said:
Fixed that for you.
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No need to correct it - I think Robbo is right - mobile graphics are very close to exceeding what's available on the PS3/XBOX360.

Remember - the xbox360 is 5 yrs old and the PS3 will be 5yrs old in November - both old tech.
 
amigafan2003 said:
No need to correct it - I think Robbo is right - mobile graphics are very close to exceeding what's available on the PS3/XBOX360.

Remember - the xbox360 is 5 yrs old and the PS3 will be 5yrs old in November - both old tech.
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Doesn't mean the Mali has the same power as a X1900XTish power in the Xbox.

I know a like-for-like comparison isn't really feasible, but Mali has 400mhz clockspeed (X1900XT has 625mhz), 1.1 Gpix/sec (X1900XT has 10 Gpix/sec) and 30 million triangles per second (X1900XT has 500 million)
 
amigafan2003 said:
No need to correct it - I think Robbo is right - mobile graphics are very close to exceeding what's available on the PS3/XBOX360.

Remember - the xbox360 is 5 yrs old and the PS3 will be 5yrs old in November - both old tech.
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The 360 GPU has 48 cores, Tegra 2 has 8, Tegra 3 will have 12 I believe. These aren't 100% comparable but do give a good guide. A top end GPU is about 50 times faster than mobiles GPU's, which is hardly surprising give that they use 100 times the power(in wattage).
 
Not only are Tegra and Mali at the slower end of the top high end mobile GPU's but the way mobiles work is so different a direct spec comparison doesn’t work. PowerVR are the fastest mobile GPU but have the lowest raw specs.

Mobiles will hit about 200 gigaflops in 2 years with a massive increase next year.
 
I've downloaded galaxy on fire 2 and I'm really disappointed, it's nowhere near as pretty as infinity blade!
 
Pottsey said:
Not only are Tegra and Mali at the slower end of the top high end mobile GPU's but the way mobiles work is so different a direct spec comparison doesn’t work. PowerVR are the fastest mobile GPU but have the lowest raw specs.

Mobiles will hit about 200 gigaflops in 2 years with a massive increase next year.
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The PowerVR in the ipad2 is by far the fastest mobile GPU, but mainly because it's a dual GPU- it's much much larger than Tegra 2 GPU/Mali/Adreno.

John Carmack quote from a few weeks ago:

"I could certainly make a better game given the same amount of development resources on an iOS device than on anything in the previous console generation—the original Xbox or the PS2. But, conversely, the current generation of consoles is quite significantly more powerful than what you can do on iOS. Of course, how much that actually turns into better gameplay and design is certainly open for some discussion."

And by iOS he is really talking about the iPad2.
 
Ipad is x2 core not x2 GPU and even the single core PowerVR chips are faster than the 8 core Tegra. Anyway the next generation is due to be a massive jump which should be well beyond todays consoles. So it’s only a short matter of time before mobiles move beyond consoles.

All the predictions are a x20 increase in GPU power in mobiles next year.
 
Aye, the rate at which things are moving is pretty damn fast.

I rarely play games on my phone but it's fun all the same :p
 
amigafan2003 said:
No need to correct it - I think Robbo is right - mobile graphics are very close to exceeding what's available on the PS3/XBOX360.

Remember - the xbox360 is 5 yrs old and the PS3 will be 5yrs old in November - both old tech.
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Don't be daft, mobile phones are nowhere near a PS3 in processing power yet, and won't be for some time.
 
Pottsey said:
Ipad is x2 core not x2 GPU and even the single core PowerVR chips are faster than the 8 core Tegra. Anyway the next generation is due to be a massive jump which should be well beyond todays consoles. So it’s only a short matter of time before mobiles move beyond consoles.

All the predictions are a x20 increase in GPU power in mobiles next year.
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Wrong. The Ipad2 has two SGX 543 cores. The GPU is called the 543MP2 as it has 2 cores and the NGP has 4 and that chip is called the 543MP4.

You really need to stop believing every press release. The 20 increase is probably over old chips from 3-4 years ago which weren't very aggressive GPU's. There is no silver bullet- one can't make a GPU that uses ~2 watts to be as fast as a GPU that uses 50 watts within a couple of years- it just not possible.
 
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