what happened to AMD X2 CPU coolers ?

[something_totally_different]

just putting together a basic system for work, its a dual core AM2 5000 CPU and as no clocking is needed i am using the standard cooler and the system just shuts off after 15 minutes!

wiped gunk off and applied a nice layer of some AS2 and i get exactly the same thing. checked temps in bios and it idles at 46oC, when i check the bios after its shut off the temps are 78oC and falling but as soon as it comes under sustained load, *blink* off goes the system.


its a basic system, 1 hdd, 1 optical drive, 1 ATI 3450 and a 120mm fan front and rear.

i mean what utter crap, i love AMD but this is just bloody poor.

 

[Monkeynut]

Is the fan spinning properly?

 

[something_totally_different]

perfectly fine, just so people know i have been building systems for 12 years so its not something thats new to me. ive truely never seen such poor quality. well, not since TIME computers were around.

 

[sja360]

im confused as to how a system shutting itself down means AMD are crap, what psu have you got for that system? has there been any other crashes?

 

[Monkeynut]

What condition is the AS2 in?
It can separate, though I'm not sure how hat affects things.

 

[something_totally_different]

im confused as to how a system shutting itself down means AMD are crap, what psu have you got for that system? has there been any other crashes?

its the temps, as soon as the system shuts down, i turn it back on, go into the bios and check the hardware monitor, cpu is in the high 70`s which tells me the gigabyte board probably has an auto shut off between 80 and 90oC. there are no blue screens of anything like that. just straight forward off.

What condition is the AS2 in?
It can separate, though I'm not sure how hat affects things.

seems fine, i used it on other cpu`s recently.

 

[muon]

Have you installed a similar cooler before? Make sure you're turning the latch in the right direction. The latch should end up perfectly firm.

 

[something_totally_different]

Have you installed a similar cooler before? Make sure you're turning the latch in the right direction. The latch should end up perfectly firm.

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[Hobgoblin]

sounds to me like its not on properly as frankly, many people are running AMD systems without it shutting down

 

[something_totally_different]

sounds to me like its not on properly as frankly, many people are running AMD systems without it shutting down

ive had the cooler off already, the thermal gunks making good contact, was a nice even thin layer done with cling film over finger, 1 drops of AS2 the size of a grain of rice. all by the book.

 

[mattyrigby00]

its either severely overvolted somehow or the sensor is wrong etc, them temps are impossible

 

[VortexA1]

its either severely overvolted somehow or the sensor is wrong etc, them temps are impossible

Ditto on that - I was thinking on something along the same lines.

 

[kitfit1]

There are only a limited number of reasons for what is happening. High vcore, bad HSF contact or a faulty mobo. The cpu itself, cannot be the problem, unless it is faulty in some way. Regardless of the "many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many times." i am certain that it is a bad HSF contact, and the fault lies with you, not the cpu.

 

[something_totally_different]

There are only a limited number of reasons for what is happening. High vcore, bad HSF contact or a faulty mobo. The cpu itself, cannot be the problem, unless it is faulty in some way. Regardless of the "many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many times." i am certain that it is a bad HSF contact, and the fault lies with you, not the cpu.

i never said it was the CPU. i think the coolers got a defect in it somewhere. possibly in the metals used.

 

[crazyDAJT]

have you verified the temperature with a 3rd party application that is reliable, obviously not core temp, but everest?

if its a faulty/mis calibrated sensor it could be hitting the emergency shut down temperature, when its actually much much lower

I believe there will be an option to ignore the CPU temp in the hardware monitoring area of the BIOS, so if it is a faulty sensor, you could just override it.

 

[Justintime]

I'll be honest and say i think its user error too. Possibly a bad retention mechanism but not likely tbh.

 

[ITR]

Would it be poss to try another cpu and hsf ? this would remove the current cpu and heatsink from the equation..

If the fault remains, it most likely a mobo sensor fault causing the shutdown as suggested above.

 

[Monkeynut]

Could you try CoreTemp and see what each core says? It could rule out a dud motherboard sensor.

 

[something_totally_different]

id love to try a third party program but that would involve being able to install an operating system or run a bartpe disk without the system cooking

 

[crazyDAJT]

id love to try a third party program but that would involve being able to install an operating system or run a bartpe disk without the system cooking

Linux Boot Disk, loads in about 5-10 mins. you could give that a go