what happened to AMD X2 CPU coolers ?

[sja360]

have you touched the heatsink after it shuts off, and checked if it burns you. im being serious. its just if it is hot to touch something is definately up.

 

[decto]

My server has a 3600 X2 s939 2.0Ghz using the stock alloy cooler (no heatpipes here) and the stock pre applied compound.... yet to see above 50C even under sustained Orthos in a case with only 1 80mm inlet fan and the PSU outlet vent.

Something is wrong with your setup... as previous posts.... either the board is reading incorrectly or the HSF isn't sitting correctly on the CPU

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[Big.Wayne]

just putting together a basic system for work

Don't you just love that, you can put together a super-dooper overclocked beast but when you try and do something really simple it all goes up the spout!

its a basic system, 1 hdd, 1 optical drive, 1 ATI 3450 and a 120mm fan front and rear.

I think you will need to list full system specs if we are to get to the bottom of this (new/used etc)

i have been building systems for 12 years

One would think that after that long time building PCs you would know nearly all the answers to any hardware problems but no, there is always something new to make you start pulling your hair out.

From everything you've described its not clear what the issue is, you seem to have zoomed in on the HSF being the problem but it could just as well be some faulty memory, a bad PSU or a bad mobo?

You know the drill, good luck!

 

[something_totally_different]

Don't you just love that, you can put together a super-dooper overclocked beast but when you try and do something really simple it all goes up the spout!

I think you will need to list full system specs if we are to get to the bottom of this (new/used etc)

One would think that after that long time building PCs you would know nearly all the answers to any hardware problems but no, there is always something new to make you start pulling your hair out.

From everything you've described its not clear what the issue is, you seem to have zoomed in on the HSF being the problem but it could just as well be some faulty memory, a bad PSU or a bad mobo?

You know the drill, good luck!

system spec (all new parts)

Gigabyte M68SM-S2L
AMD AM2 X2 5000 standard retail with stock HSF
Saphire HD3450
Shinobi case with generic 500 watt PSU
4 gig OCZ DDR 800
250 gig hitachi sata2
1 pioneer DVD drive.


Situation:
you start installing windows XP. the starting parts fine, you get through all the dos based copying of files, formatting drive, ect ect, this takes about ten minutes and then your system reboots and brings you into normal windows loading system,

5 to ten minutes into that, the temperature alarm sounds on the board, 5 minutes later the system shuts off. If you restart immediatly and go into the bios you will see the CPU @ 78oC and falling.

Solutions tried and tested,
reseating cpu, reseating HSF, cleaning off (with isopropyl) and reapplying thermal paste (AS2).


Solutions to try:
will try CPU in another AM2 system i have here. will also try using the other systems stock HSF

 

[Steves_pc]

I'd be looking at perhaps bios update and another fan header, failing that another cpu?
Been here too with the simple builds that endup causing more of a pita.

 

[Lyle44]

As fellow AM2 owner can say that my 4200+ @ 2750 never goes above 62oC under load and that's with stock cooler.
Have you done what sja360 said above?
Would suggest duff HSF, CPU or Bios update.
Found this guy has similar problem to yours http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t58852.html
HTH sorry if it doesn't.

L.

 

[drunkenmaster]

phenom overvolted and at 2.7Ghz on stock heatsink which is small, quiet(when its at low speed, and it is 99% of the time) overvolted and doesn't go over 55c. thats twice the number of cores, overclocked, overvolted and cooler, its not that the heatsinks are crap.

If you have a faulty heatsink of faulty bracket, that doesn't mean the heatsink is a bad design. most likely the sensors are off, maybe a new bios would fix it, maybe the heatsink isn't making good contact because of dodgey bracket/mounting fault. maybe the mobo is faulty and is largely overvolting it.

 

[something_totally_different]

well, it turns out it is indeed the heatsink... i have another am2 system with a sempron and stock HSF thats identical to the one that came with the dual core and the one off the sempron is fine, no problems.

now as the original hsf for the dual core is making good contact with the chip, and im using AS2, i can only presume there is some form of defect in the metals of this cooler.

 

[prosk]

I had a similar problem a while ago. I put a system together in a hurry and it was crashing shortly after booting. After a quick check I found I hadn't pushed the 24 pin connector all the way in to make it clip. Newb mistake but they happen sometimes. I'm guessing you've already checked for this kinda stuff though, right?

 

[Steves_pc]

Well i'll be # # # # #

Thats about as odd as it gets, if it had a copper slug in the bottom thats not making very good contact with the rest of the sink. ?

Glad you sussed it out.

 

[muon]

Defect in the metals of the cooler?

entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

 

[something_totally_different]

Defect in the metals of the cooler?

entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

Occam's razor i take it,

 

[MTA99]

...i can only presume there is some form of defect in the metals of this cooler.

Voids could have been introduced into the metal as it was extruded but can't see that they would degrade the performance to such and extent

 

[gt_junkie]

Is the cpu's core soldered to the heatplate or thermal pasted like older socket 939's.

It's a very strange problem if the contact on the IHS looks good.

Maybe the IHS isn't contacting with the CPU's core.

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[something_totally_different]

Is the cpu's core soldered to the heatplate or thermal pasted like older socket 939's.

It's a very strange problem if the contact on the IHS looks good.

Maybe the IHS isn't contacting with the CPU's core.

gt

it cant be the IHS otherwise the second cooler i used would have had the same result as the original one.

 

[decto]

The cooler applies pressure at a centre point once the locking clip is closed. It could well be a fault with the cooler in that the original extrusion, machining errors or clip fabrication mean the HSF doesn't sit correctly for proper heat transfer even if it's spreading the paste ok.

At least it's an easy fix, I picked up a stock cooler for near postage recently.

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[jamjar1383]

i had the same thing with a mobile cpu on a sock 754 mobo and i turned out that the standerd cooler wasnt making proper contact so i had to modify the bit of plastic that the hsf clips on to, because the hsf wasnt i direct contact it needed to be about 2mm lower than it was standerd.