What happens to tips in a restaurant?

$loth said:
I worked as a commis chef over the summer period. 9 hour shifts with no proper breaks in a 37c kitchen for £5.50/hour makes waitering look like a walk in the park.
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I know plenty of people who rather deal with the heat than the customers. Is 9 hours a long shift then?

I do understand your point though, I worked in kitchens in Spain in extreme heat. The days were somewhat longer than 9 hours thou, closer to 14-15, mornings and nights!
 
So you're saying that because the bosses don't pay a good enough wage then the consumer has to front the bill with a tip?

As long as they take my order and use please and thank you then what else will you need?
 
$loth said:
So you're saying that because the bosses don't pay a good enough wage then the consumer has to front the bill with a tip?

As long as they take my order and use please and thank you then what else will you need?
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No I am saying that across the board waiting is a low paid job that is subsidised by tips. If the staff were not getting then then you would find most of the good ones will go do something else, leaving the ones who don't deserve a tip to serve you. This is why the level of service is generally lower in places where the management etc keep the tips, or use them to bring wages to nat min wage, ie Pizza Express.
 
nomad said:
because they don't, they earn more in both places, even more in Mcdonalds!
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No they don't! Not down here, at least.

I don't need to pay my staff loads more, they get tips.
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And thats the problem really, isnt it? If we didnt tip, you'd have to pay your staff more. So, the only good thing about tips is they indirectly line the pockets of restuarant owners ;)
 
nomad said:
I know plenty of people who rather deal with the heat than the customers. Is 9 hours a long shift then?
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In a hot kitchen with no break it is. We live in modern day britain, not the tabbaco fields in africa.

I do understand your point though, I worked in kitchens in Spain in extreme heat. The days were somewhat longer than 9 hours thou, closer to 14-15, mornings and nights!
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I just wouldn't do that, some people may call it lazy-ness but i'm just fed up of being known as a hard-working walkover (as you may or may not have noticed i'm not in the most pleasent of moods, this is in no way meant as an insult to you).

nomad said:
This is why the level of service is generally lower in places where the management etc keep the tips, or use them to bring wages to nat min wage, ie Pizza Express.
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Thanks for telling me about pizza express, I go there a couple of times a year and my girlfriend insists on tipping.
 
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$loth said:
nomad said:
I know plenty of people who rather deal with the heat than the customers. Is 9 hours a long shift then?
In a hot kitchen with no break it is. We live in modern day britain, not the tabbaco fields in africa.



I just wouldn't do that, some people may call it lazy-ness but i'm just fed up of being known as a hard-working walkover (as you may or may not have noticed i'm not in the most pleasent of moods, this is in no way meant as an insult to you).
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Not insilted at all mate! I was a lot younger then, I wouldn't do it now!
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nomad said:
In my place because they earn more and don't have to deal with the customers face to face. Can't speak for others.
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yeah, but I'd rather tip the chef, preferably before the meal, to reduce the consumption of their bodily fluids as much as possible :p
 
[TW]Fox;11525531 said:
No they don't! Not down here, at least.



And thats the problem really, isnt it? If we didnt tip, you'd have to pay your staff more. So, the only good thing about tips is they indirectly line the pockets of restuarant owners ;)
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If some law was passed and tipping was outlawed I would happily pay my waiting staff more, they are worth their weight in gold.
 
I'll often tip around 10% if I think the staff have done a really good job above the standards that you'd expect of the establishment. But I'll always tip cash, if I wanted to pay more for my meal I'd go to a more expensive restaurant.

Tipping happens everywhere though, I'm often receiving tips from customers who have been impressed with the quality of my work, despite them already paying thousands to my employer.
 
Wrote quite a lot but got logged out and lost it. So i'll summarise

Im a student who waiters in a pub two nights a week for 4.50 a hour, i can come away with anything from £10-30 a week in tips which really has come in essential. No help financailly from parents and do not quality for any ema :(

Basically since I started tips have helped me pay for things such as driving lessons, without them i may not have been driving by now which really has changed my life (able to go places, no more waiting for half 5 bus after finishing coll at 4 and now have most wonderful gf in world etc). They really are appreciated and have helped me no end. So for those who tip i thank you :)

btw i in no way expect tips but am more than willing to go the extra mile for those that do
 
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Its annoying to have to go in to a place to eat and they expect you to tip them as well as pay for the food. I go to eat nothing more i eat then i leave why should i or anyone ever pay for ppl that just walk to u write down the order go to the counter give the note and when its ready bring it to the table. They get payed by their boss not us. If it aint enough then go work at somit that pays enough. I mean im more than happy to actually go to the counter and tell them what i want and take it to the table myself to bypass a tip.
 
Wiggins said:
I used to work for 'ASK' as a waiter to fill in some spare time I had a few years back.

They actually paid below the minimum wage and any tips taken were then added to the payroll to make it to the minimum wage. If the tips were not enough to compensate the low wage, the company would then top up the cost to reflect the minimum wage.
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If the balance of the tips would result in you being paid above the minimum wage, did you get to keep them all or did the company siphon off anything above the minimum wage?
 
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