Caporegime
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People are looking at it basically all wrong. minimum wage is basically crap, a lot of people work waiting jobs because they have other things on, kids, family, uni and its one of a small list of jobs to do later in the day. Its not all just 16yr olds looking for extra pocket money and even then, minimum wage is still crap.
ANyway, point is, say your meal would cost £6, but instead its £5.50 a person and 50p tip, if the meal was crappy, you don't tip, if its good, you tip. Its basically a way to tell the waiter and/or the restaurant they are doing a good job, or are doing a crap job.
If everyone stops tipping, something needs fixing. Its an indirect, polite and traditional way to tell the staff one way or the other if you liked the place.
They could just charge everyone £6 for the meal and have anyone that hated it call for the manager and complain loudly infront of everyone, but thats just not the way us Brits do it.
I was also going to say exactly the same as someone else said in response to the working in kitchen for min wage being hell. I would also take the job in the heat over dealing with customers.
I haven't worked in a restaurant but did various jobs through a-level years, marks and sparks for instance. Dealing with arsey customers is just the worst thing in life and really not worth the time, especially on low wages. Be nice to places that are pleasant, have good food and good service, and don't tip places that turn out to be crap and hope the ones not getting a tip try to improve whatever was wrong.
IF people stop tipping completely, wages would increase more than they do now, and so food price would go up anyway to compensate, so you aren't paying anymore by tipping than you would if there weren't tipping, you just get to alter how much you pay for a meal based on a sliding scale of how good it was.
Are there just so many people working crappy almost minimum wage jobs now that minimum wage isn't seen as terrible anymore? Keep seeing threads of people on 10-14k doing first line tech support and i just think, how, how can someone work and survive on that little cash. Levels of expectation seem to be going down in the UK.
ANyway, point is, say your meal would cost £6, but instead its £5.50 a person and 50p tip, if the meal was crappy, you don't tip, if its good, you tip. Its basically a way to tell the waiter and/or the restaurant they are doing a good job, or are doing a crap job.
If everyone stops tipping, something needs fixing. Its an indirect, polite and traditional way to tell the staff one way or the other if you liked the place.
They could just charge everyone £6 for the meal and have anyone that hated it call for the manager and complain loudly infront of everyone, but thats just not the way us Brits do it.
I was also going to say exactly the same as someone else said in response to the working in kitchen for min wage being hell. I would also take the job in the heat over dealing with customers.
I haven't worked in a restaurant but did various jobs through a-level years, marks and sparks for instance. Dealing with arsey customers is just the worst thing in life and really not worth the time, especially on low wages. Be nice to places that are pleasant, have good food and good service, and don't tip places that turn out to be crap and hope the ones not getting a tip try to improve whatever was wrong.
IF people stop tipping completely, wages would increase more than they do now, and so food price would go up anyway to compensate, so you aren't paying anymore by tipping than you would if there weren't tipping, you just get to alter how much you pay for a meal based on a sliding scale of how good it was.
Are there just so many people working crappy almost minimum wage jobs now that minimum wage isn't seen as terrible anymore? Keep seeing threads of people on 10-14k doing first line tech support and i just think, how, how can someone work and survive on that little cash. Levels of expectation seem to be going down in the UK.
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