What is a fair price to pay ?

Samuel L Jackson will be playing the part of Mr Z.
I do love the spread of opinion and how emotional people get :p
 
Even if you're paying his full cost of fuel (£5/day) it's still win-win. You'd both pay less on travel. If you paid £4 a day you'd both be saving the same amount, £4 a day, which seems fair. Yet all he want is £2.50/day, that's a bargain.

Though £8 a day on the bus to travel half the distance seems high, surely it would be less with a monthly/annual pass? So, £2.50 is probably about as fair as you can get.
 
Out of common decency I would be chipping in on the fuel. Just because someone is driving there anyway doesnt mean you shoud be entitled to a free ride.

Cars cost money to maintain, if someone wants to tag along then they can help out.

I find that the people who think they are hard done by are usually getting busses because they are too tight to learn to drive or run a car in the first place.

You might aswell stand by the roadside with a bit of cardboard if thats what you want.
 
Dis86 said:
I'd probably just be happy getting chucked a tenner a week
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We usually settled on 5 or 10 a week which I didn't think was fair. We were all contactors on an hourly rate. Most days the picking up and dropping off would add 30 mins extra each way. So by the end of the 7 day week I had worked an extra day. Yet the payment received for a week didn't even cover 30 mins of work.

These guys were happy to be saving time and didn't care about the time I was wasting. They never once paid what was owed without an argument.

For people saying paying half or all the bus fare is fair, I would say you should pay more for the convenience and comfort.
 
howiepoohs said:
What is fair is what you are prepared to pay. Keep in mind that the car owner not only pays for petrol but also the car and general upkeep, insurance, tax etc. He can ask as much or as little as he likes.
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This it may only be £2.50 in fuel but the the true cost will be more like triple that.
 
Consider a different scenario. but with a similar question to cost allocation.

Mr X is self employed.

For his business he needs to have broadband and a phone line.

Both are provided on contracts that make actual usage essentially free (IE No data charges, Free phone calls up to one hour)

He also uses the internet and phone for personal use.

How much should MrX declare for tax purposes as personal use.

None (On the grounds that he needs the services anyway and any additional personal use incurs no extra costs)

Or "Some other figure"


In a similar vein, Mr X drives a works van, he occasionally stops off at the local supermarket to do his weekly shop on his way home (He does not have to make a detour for this)

Is this "personal use" for tax purposes, and if so, how much should be declared?
 
Efour said:
Mr X asks him to pay 50% of the fuel costs £2.50 a day. The bus would cost him £8 a day remember.

Mr Y agrees but all of his mates thinks he is crazy because Mr X would be driving that way anyway so really he is just filling his own pockets making his petrol costs much cheaper.
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Mr Y's mates are a bunch of freeloading leeches :D Tax, insurance, depreciation ....
 
God this forum is full of car freaks haha.
I've been asked to remind people to consider these people are also friends and to consider this as many seem more concerned about the cars well being. (Yes swedes are ****** please don't tell her I wrote that)
 
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Efour said:
Very valid point. I feel that Mr Y and Z don't really affect these values though should they really be paying to run his personal car?

Still its good to have your opinion !
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More weight being carried in the car means more petrol is being burned and there is more wear and tear on the cars engine, suspension, brakes, other serviceable parts, etc.

He is also doing more miles than he would be if he was going straight to work and back. Not a lot more in 2 minutes deotour but again that is 2 minutes one way every day he is losing out on and adding to his car.

It's not cheap to run a car, it's amazing people think it's just fuel costs.

I would say they should pay £4 a day. It's half what the bus costs and he's saving time and money as well as having good company. I don't see why the car owner should be left out of time and money helping his friend get to work everyday. However people usually only look at it from their own point of view and want everything for as cheap as possible. Half of what he pays for the bus seems fair. It equates to £20 a week instead of £40 a week. He is saving himself £20 and the car owner gets £20 towards maintenance/fuel of his car.

Put it this way would he pay £2000 to have the car fixed if it broke down and his mate didn't have the cash?
 
Efour said:
God this forum is full of car freaks haha.
I've been asked to remind people to consider these people are also friends and to consider this as many seem more concerned about the cars well being. (Yes swedes are ****** please don't tell her I wrote that)
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A friend would offer to chip in.

A freeloader wouldnt.
 
bainbridge said:
That's it. After reading this thread I'm never giving anyone a lift ever again.

Family, friends or colleagues.. They're not going in MY car.
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A lift once in a blue moon is one thing. Getting 2 every day of the year is another, especially if commuting to a place of work where they would otherwise have to pay £8 a day, have to leave earlier, get home later and be expected to walk several minutes on top too.
 
Nothing, it's a friend after all and it's not a hardship for the driver as he's going that way anyway (albeit with a minor detour).

Token gesture at the most, or better still a pint when you're both at the pub or a few bottles of beer at christmas or something.
 
Flat rate if £1 per journey per person and be done with it.

Personally if it was my car I wouldn't give anyone a lift, can't stand waiting around for others to finish.
 
Guerrilla said:
Nothing, it's a friend after all and it's not a hardship for the driver as he's going that way anyway (albeit with a minor detour).

Token gesture at the most, or better still a pint when you're both at the pub or a few bottles of beer at christmas or something.
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I thought there would be more replies like this but it seems you are very much in the minority.
Everyone sees it more as a business transaction.
 
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