What is "Fast"?

I did, and I retorted with the following;

MikeHiow said:
That M3 is still on the road, and its new owner has no idea there is a problem, but you categorically said above that an E46 will have been looked after (well, actually it had been) and thus will have no engine problems.

Of course, older cars suffering from power loss aren't always down to issues like this. The Corrado VR6s suffered with bore wear, which in turn resulted in power loss. The C20XE in the Calibra and the like had similar issues.

The Rover T16 engines suffered horribly with carbon build up on the valves, which led to a crap seat and a loss of power.

There are may other cars that commonly, and some not so commonly suffer with other issues through wear that can lead to a loss of power, worn rings, blow by, ****ed sensors etc. any number of things that can be attributed to age/mileage/wear can cause power loss as a car ages.
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But every single person in this thread has ignored it. I wonder why that is.
 
Gibbo said:
HI there

Mike your car does 60-100mph in the region of 8s, not 6.7s which the M3 does it in.

You claim your car is nearly as fast as the RS which does it in 6.9s, yet the Montune Focus or whatever its called which I believe is inline with yours does it in 8s, so what makes your different to make it nearly as quick as the RS model?


Infact whats the point, its clear your car is the Millenium Falken. :D
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I'm not particularly fussed with on paper results, I told of an experience of mine as part of a perfectly honest and harmless discussion.
 
MikeHiow said:
Because no one ever buys from the bottom of the market when they can't afford a good example?
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But was the "HGF" declared as the reason for it being cheap or did the new owner think he was getting a bargain?

All of this is causing a smokescreen for the real crux of the matter - your Focus ST is NOWHERE NEAR as fast as an M3 in ANY given situation. Period.
 
Oh one more question - totally hypothetical question. If the car is, as you beleive, broken, then what possible relevence is your ST's performance against it?

Am I to post that i pwnt a 911 Turbo the other day with a broken Turbo and everyone say wow or something?
 
MikeHiow said:
I'm not particularly fussed with on paper results, I told of an experience of mine as part of a perfectly honest and harmless discussion.
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What you said is an M3 only just manage to past you at 90mph and it was very close.

You then said because its 8yrs old it was probably down on power and engines loose power over time.


My response was factual information:-

Your car does 60-100mph in 8s, an M3 does it in 6.7s, if both drivers went for it, both were equals the M3 would have pulled away from the start, not at 90mph, by 90mph it was be 2-3 car lengths ahead and into three digits a few bus lengths - FACT! Nearly 1.5s difference is a few car lengths, not just one which your post suggest.

I then pointed out that a car serviced correctly will not loose power, especially an engine such as the S54 from the M3, they are fantastic engines that carry on making their power even when past 100,000 miles, power loss will only be evident on a poorly maintained one or one thats never been opened up. Fact is they do not loose power when serviced correctly, certainly not enough to loose the 30-40BHP one would need to loose to only just get past your Focus at 90mph.


These are facts, they are not from planet crack which you seem to live on, infact what are you taking as I want some? :D
 
Princey said:
Where are people getting figures from? I'd love to know what my car does.
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Hi m8

All my figures are real, I've got a VBOX and will happily bring it to a meet. :)

I've run several cars on it, the EVO X does 5.6-5.9s 60-100mph, the CSL was 5.9s, the Mustang was 3.9-4.2s.

At a guess I'd say your 60-100mph time will be 6-7s region m8. :)
 
"HAI GUISE, I PWNT A FERRARI THE OTHER DAY IN MY ST"

"Not on your nelly, jog on mate..."

"SRS!!"

"Nah"

"IT WAS ON BRIX THO, SO YOU CANT SAY IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, HOW CUD U KNO?"
 
Why do you do that? What do you gain by posting these out of context and inaccurate quotes?

How can he categorically say what he did as fact? Has he put a Bluefin ST against an M3 between around 40 to 90/100MPH? I doubt it. Does he have consistent figures for both cars from the same reliable source? No.

If I made a claim with such little substance backing it, I'd be obliterated, but seeing as this argument goes 'with the grain' it is being allowed to pass.

What it boils down to, is that it sounds unlikely that a Focus could be fast enough to keep off an M3 for a set amount of time in circumstances that could very well favour the ST. Lets remember here, I openly said that once we hit 90-100MPH then it left my like I wasn't even moving.
 
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