Soldato
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What is "Fast"?
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You did. You are.
It would leave your Focus from 40mph, though and by 90mph be up the road and gone. The only time your Focus will out do is in-gear acceleration due to the mid-range from your turbo. But if as you say you were both going for it this would not come into account as the M3 driver would be stirring his box and then you've got no chance, but your ST held it until 90mph which suggest your saying your ST is just as quick as an M3 from 40-90mph which it is not, unless your running a lot more power than 275 horses.
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Where did this happen, special road race trip to the mainland?
not worth a dime if you have so little credibility that nobody beleives a word you say.
I think its fair to say most of us have left it. Just like that M3 would have left you behind had you actually raced it...
I'm a relatively new driver having had my driving licence for 2.3years. My next car is going to be a Maxda MX-5 1.8 with a 0-60 of 8.4seconds, I considered that "fast" 
. I had a ferrari track day experience recently and was blown away by the speed of that. A 0-60 of 4 seconds I beliece.
. I had a ferrari track day experience recently and was blown away by the speed of that. A 0-60 of 4 seconds I beliece.You say the above with so much confidence when barely a second separates them from 60-100, and its entirely possible that the ST has the advantage from 40-60 with the mid-range you speak of. Then there is the fact that I stated 90-100MPH (I would think the higher the numbers, the bigger the gain the M3 has).
Then factor in me getting a better start, or any number of other every day factors, do you really think its impossible?
[TW]Fox;17643066 said:
Nope, locally.
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Some of you really are too quick to be saying that car a is much faster than car b and would muller car b in a race, and have obviously never really gone against other cars on the road.
On the road, in a real world situations, where one driver may drive his car to the ragged edge, and change gear very fast etc. The other driver may not be as good a driver, or just not drive their car as hard.
So when car a gets to 100mph 2 or even 3 seconds faster than that of car b which is being driven (drove?
) more aggresively, the gap on the road is not going to be very big, especially as you can't exactly accelerate for very long periods of time.
I've experienced this many a time in my previous cars, keeping up with cars that should be much faster, but just couldn't get away from me.
On the road, in a real world situations, where one driver may drive his car to the ragged edge, and change gear very fast etc. The other driver may not be as good a driver, or just not drive their car as hard.
So when car a gets to 100mph 2 or even 3 seconds faster than that of car b which is being driven (drove?
) more aggresively, the gap on the road is not going to be very big, especially as you can't exactly accelerate for very long periods of time.I've experienced this many a time in my previous cars, keeping up with cars that should be much faster, but just couldn't get away from me.
OH LOOK! ANOTHER set of factors brought in. Barely a second? A second is a LONG time in these situations and the faster you go, the bigger the distance it is... Keep on backpedaling!
Must have been here then, probably the only place on the Isle of Wight that its possible to get two cars side by side on a race to the other side of 100mph..
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...4435,-1.293726&spn=0.009649,0.018861&t=h&z=16
Yes?
If factors such as you getting a better start etc etc could have been im play how does the result have enough relevence to be worth mentioning in an internet argument?
That is what is ironic though,I don't care what people think of my ST. It'll be gone tomorrow or the next day, and will be replaced with something that is probably almost certainly faster 40-90/MPH
[TW]Fox;17643134 said:
If a race occurred, then it probably would have happened heading south east on Medina Way
Of course there are other factors in play, it was a race on the road, but if the results are close enough to be determined by a split second reaction, gear change etc. then they are not that far apart anyway - which is what I've been trying to say. I mean, even those paper figures Gibbo has given only puts them at about a second apart ffs.
That is what is ironic though,I don't care what people think of my ST. It'll be gone tomorrow or the next day, and will be replaced with something that is probably almost certainly faster 40-90/MPH
a) 'probably almost certainly'? LOL?
b) I thought you traded it in for a Focus 1.6?
I see we are now thinking along the same lines
then it probably would have happened heading south east on Medina Way
Probably not though as you'd need to be a proper donut to race to over 100mph on a road that short in an urban area like that, right? I mean only a complete chav would do that?
Some of you really are too quick to be saying that car a is much faster than car b and would muller car b in a race, and have obviously never really gone against other cars on the road.
On the road, in a real world situations, where one driver may drive his car to the ragged edge, and change gear very fast etc. The other driver may not be as good a driver, or just not drive their car as hard.
So when car a gets to 100mph 2 or even 3 seconds faster than that of car b which is being driven (drove?
I've experienced this many a time in my previous cars, keeping up with cars that should be much faster, but just couldn't get away from me.
Hi m8
This I completely agree with.
The problem is however Mike gives it my car kept up and then goes to say the M3 is clearly no faster until above 90mph.
Fact is all things been even the M3 is clearly the faster car, what Mike fails to realise is exactly what you said, though he then goes on too claim he knows the M3 driver and they were both going for it. But like you say there are too many difference.
But in a controlled test an M3 with 343BHP weighing in at 1550kg is gonna accelerate faster from 40mph than a 275BHP Focus ST.