What is happening to the music industry?
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I much prefer that birdy cover of bon iver tbh....that's talent not some skank shouting that it's Friday.
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Bring back 1994-6 I say. Dance music back then had a lot more emerging styles. The euro stuff was considered cheesy but was still listen-able. Indie stuff back then was quite good too, although I hated the Blur vs Oasis hype. Some original stuff too like Pulp. There were boybands but fairly limited - Take That, Boyzone, East 17 and the occasional 1-hitters. Nowadays, dance is too cheesy. There's too much auto-tuning and too much r'n'b. While I was never keen on r'n'b', I can appreciate that it was pretty decent in 1994-6, for example, Brownstone. There's too much reality stuff as well. I think Eurovision was plenty enough.
Lupe fiasco's new album LASERS is a sign just how bad the music industry is... usually he's a lyrical genius- in Jay-z's words , raps best kept secret ( i think jay said that) , but atlantic records just peed all over his album autotuning the crap out of it..... it was pointless because there was a big fan rally to get his album released- people were going to buy it, but atlantic records got greedy and ruined it..... i was looking forward to it for so so long...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GaKaGwch0U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GaKaGwch0U
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Caporegime
I only listen to Taylor Swift, Kate Voegele, Avril Lavigne and Michelle Branch anyway 
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Two points:
1) There is no such thing as originality. Just authenticity.
2) Music has been disposable for decades. Good music still exists and is there for those who actually like music enough to do a bit of digging. Most people don't care about finding anything beyond what they are told to listen to on the radio, online or on music TV. They don't want to engage with music in a substantial, challenging way. They simply want something memorable but ultimately disposable.
1) There is no such thing as originality. Just authenticity.
2) Music has been disposable for decades. Good music still exists and is there for those who actually like music enough to do a bit of digging. Most people don't care about finding anything beyond what they are told to listen to on the radio, online or on music TV. They don't want to engage with music in a substantial, challenging way. They simply want something memorable but ultimately disposable.
Caporegime
Grammar as well apparently.
A lot of good points in this thread. I do think there is still good music out there, or authentic as someone put it, which I think is a good description. You'll have to look beyond the charts though. I do also agree that certain young people, ok, particularly girls, know litte music outside the charts, and that's a shame.
The music industry is just there to make money, it's an industry, it has almost nothing to do with making good music - they mass-produce tunes to sell to young girls and boys, choosing the songs/people that are most likely to sell in large numbers by being firmly within whatever generic category their analysts say will be most popular at the time
There's nothing at all stopping people from finding good music these days, it's probably easier now than it has been at almost any point in history to find new and exciting music from all other the world literally at the press of a button, why bother complaining about what music other people listen to or like when you could spend that time discovering amazing new stuff for yourself. I listen to a pretty crazy mix of stuff I could go from listening to metal to bluegrass to jazz and on and on etc.. all just from discovering stuff online or in music shops that I liked the sound of
I haven't listened to the terrible song that's everyones going on about at the moment because i've heard from 20 different people about how terrible it is, why would I want to listen to it? just to add another number to their page hits!
There's nothing at all stopping people from finding good music these days, it's probably easier now than it has been at almost any point in history to find new and exciting music from all other the world literally at the press of a button, why bother complaining about what music other people listen to or like when you could spend that time discovering amazing new stuff for yourself. I listen to a pretty crazy mix of stuff I could go from listening to metal to bluegrass to jazz and on and on etc.. all just from discovering stuff online or in music shops that I liked the sound of
I haven't listened to the terrible song that's everyones going on about at the moment because i've heard from 20 different people about how terrible it is, why would I want to listen to it? just to add another number to their page hits!
I think you've missed the point. I'm pretty sure this video, made by a company called Ark Productions, was paid for by the parents and made as a present for Rebecca because she wanted to be a popstar for a video. The company specialises in writing songs and videoing teenagers and giving them their popstar dream. You can even HEAR them say "Ark Productions" in the intro. It's just that this one got made public. I don't see anything wrong with it for what it is.
Here is another video made by the same company. Even though the song is rubbish, the girl is much better.
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So it's like a music video for themselves?
That's like seeing photos of themselves dressed up and hired a photographer, then people look at the pictures and say "look at the state of the modelling industry"???
That's like seeing photos of themselves dressed up and hired a photographer, then people look at the pictures and say "look at the state of the modelling industry"???
Pretty much. I don't think it was ever meant to go on wide release, I'm not sure how it became so public. Maybe an acquaintance of hers posted it on 4chan because of the awful lyrics and things snowballed, I'm not sure.
EDIT: Ah, seems like an American comedian found it, discussed it on his blog and things blew up from there.
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If there's one thing I hate is music snobbery and coming out of someone so young as the OP saddens me more.
My all time favourite bands are Led Zeppelin, Slayer, Metallica etc but the song in the OP is better than some of the worst drivel they put out.
There are two forms of music - good & bad.
My all time favourite bands are Led Zeppelin, Slayer, Metallica etc but the song in the OP is better than some of the worst drivel they put out.
There are two forms of music - good & bad.
Well it is on YouTube because the Ark Music Factory is obviously trying to promote it's business and I'm sure the kids who did the videos want everybody to see them. I'd imagine they or their parents do think they have some talent, otherwise they wouldn't have done it. A case of pushy parents or kids getting their own way; I agree it's similar to people doing professional photo shoots who clearly are never going to make it as a model.
Although it's highly amusing, I don't actually think what this Ark Music Factory has done is wrong. Fair play to them if they can make a business out of people actually paying for this stuff.
Although it's highly amusing, I don't actually think what this Ark Music Factory has done is wrong. Fair play to them if they can make a business out of people actually paying for this stuff.
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Like ranout says, the trades allways been about the money. The difference of the now, it's a focused industry, the mainstreamed pop that droped for years on the broader audience diluted itself over the last 10-15 years to the point of no return.
The mainstream pop/charts now is just the industries most visable niche, you can't realy compare it to what it represented through the 30-40 years previous.
The mainstream pop/charts now is just the industries most visable niche, you can't realy compare it to what it represented through the 30-40 years previous.