What is the most violent city in the world?

Chimerical said:
Detroit for the worst city in America iirc.
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"Detroit is a very violent place, isn't it?" -- Beverly Hills Cop

We were beaten by Washington, D.C. in 1990, and haven't been at the top of the list since.

Surely Santa Carla, California still ranks as the murder capital of the world due to all the vampires. :D


edit: as of September, 2008, here are the top 5: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4480
 
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Raist said:
"Detroit is a very violent place, isn't it?" -- Beverly Hills Cop

We were beaten by Washington, D.C. in 1990, and haven't been at the top of the list since.

Surely Santa Carla, California still ranks as the murder capital of the world due to all the vampires. :D


edit: as of September, 2008, here are the top 5: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4480
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That list is incredibly incomplete... for instance, there are 100 cities in the USA apparently with a higher murder rate than Moscow.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0934323.html
 
Well, you wouldn't catch me out and about in Guatemala City after sun down and if something happened I wouldn't be running to the police for help either.
 
Parts of Rio and Bogota aren’t exactly rose gardens but then that could be said of many other places in South America.
 
with Johannesburg there is a very high crime rate, murders are high as well but not the highest in the world. I think its the overall combined crime rate in Jo'burg that is one of the highest in the world
 
Does murder make for a violent city though? For instance gang warfare in any city will account for a lot of its murders, but outside the worst area's of the city where most people live they might lead lives completed untouched by any violence at all. Places with insane gang activity have artificially high murder rates but not necessarily bad places to live for other people.

Basically an impossible to answer question, personally I'd go with whatever city has the highest percentage of citizens that feel unsafe and scared on a daily basis and can't go anywhere without a real fear of being gunned down. With that in mind a city with a high death rate and constant and fairly arbitrary terrorist attacks would most likely be right up there on the scale.
 
I dunno. I'd say murder was pretty violent. Gang members are people, being murdered, in acts of violence. Sooooo... i'd say they account for creating a violent city.
 
A police friend of mine made an interesting point that Newport, Wales was a lot more violent than London on a Friday night. A higher instance of violence but less extreme when there is violence in London.
 
Merthyr Tydfil, they'd stab you even if you were from Merthyr


Cardiff, Barry and Swansea have bad reputations at times, but it's easy to stay out of trouble if you're not a longneck
 
Raist said:
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4480
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That list is laughable at best. There are an untold amount of Brits, Germans and French living in Cape Town, SA. Maggie Thatcher's own son lives out there happily, Prince Harry's girlfriend (ex?) studied there for four years, the CEO's of B.A.T, Richemont, Remgro refuse to move anywhere else. Plastice celebs like Britney Spears, Bono and Alicia Keys is constantly seen in Cape Town, Jean Claude van Damme has 2 houses in Cape Town, Michael Schumacher practically lives out there 6 months a year. Most European athletes head to Stellenbosch (30min from Cape Town) to train and get away from the European winters. A Norwegian ex girlfriend of mine married a British fella living out in Cape Town and she said she will not come back to Europe for all the money in the world.

That is only the city I know a lot about. On that list, I've only been to Moscow (well, and Cape Town a lot), and I have not felt threatened or in danger even once. That included walking around night times and some very seedy areas at times.

Granted, perhaps that list is on context with the citizen/muder ratio, but telling me that a place like Johannesburg, Rio or Baghdad with it's constantly suicide bombs, is not worse than a place like Cape Town or Detroit, is laughable at best.
 
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DampCat said:
I dunno. I'd say murder was pretty violent. Gang members are people, being murdered, in acts of violence. Sooooo... i'd say they account for creating a violent city.
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i'm not saying its not violent itself, but if Compton was 3% of the total area in LA, there are 2000 murders in Compton but 10 in LA, would you say LA was violent, would anyone not in compton think LA was violent. if 98% of the population in a place feel safe, can that place be considered violent even if it has a high murder rate.

Like I was trying to get at, would you feel less safe in LA, knowing you could just stay out of gang neighbourhoods and probably be fine and never see a crime, or safer in a city in Israel where any day any time anywhere you could be blown up be a terrorist who doesn't care who he targets? Theres probably not a huge "murder" rate there, but I'd feel that place was more violent than other places.
 
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