Caporegime
Not understanding white privilege is kinda the perfect example of white privilege 
What is white privilege?
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"What is white privilege?"
The ability to go about your business without thinking about 'race' at any point.
(You asked, this is the definition....)
The ability to go about your business without thinking about 'race' at any point.
(You asked, this is the definition....)
ironically whites are often quite poor at these things in the UK today.
Soldato
Well that's because black people commit far more crime.
Soldato
Funnily enough, I'm fairly sure it was found in car stops, that the white people actually had a higher % of issues, and yet were still stopped a lower proportion of the time. Blacks were more likely to be stopped for "suspicion" rather than actual offenses too (speeding, broken lights etc).
You do realise 'I don't see race.' is one of the identifying arguments from 'I'm not racist but....' types?
It's a lazy and dishonest take on life. For example, my last boss was a Muslim, of course I considered his race when I suggested to meet for a coffee rather than a beer. That's just being a considerate human being. Just as you wouldn't ask your mate in a wheelchair to come mountain climbing or your vegetarian mate to come to a rib house.
Soldato
That's only the definition if you have an agenda, to everyone else that's just equality.
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You treat you black friends differently, purely on the basis of their skin colour?
Caporegime
Sounds...racist
Often quote easily
One of the few attempts at investigating this was done when the New Jersey highway patrol were accused of being racists for stopping more blacks in traffic stops.... So they divisied a clever study by measuring the speed of cars on a stretch of freeway (covertly) whilst also photographing the drivers of the cars concerned (again covertly).
A panel of people where then asked to try and establish the ethnicity of the drivers photographed but crucially they didn't know what the recorded speed of the corresponding cars was and didn't know if the vehicle was exceeding the speed limit or not.
The results of the study showed that the drivers identified as black were apparently speeding disproportianally when compared to the actual stop ratios for the police suggesting the police should be stopping more black drivers if they were acting on the basis of offending activity alone whilst ignoring ethnicity!
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/27/nyregion/racial-study-of-speeders-is-released-in-new-jersey.html
Feel free to post a link to refute....
A major reason is there are more likely to plead not guilty to the same crimes. In the UK that means at least a third higher sentence if found guilty.
Yes. I've explained why. I don't see an issue with that. I don't treat them lower or higher than anybody else, I treat them as considerately as possible, and factor everything I know about them before doing certain things.
Other examples, my brother in law is a racist, I wouldn't invite my Nigerian friend round his for a barbeque. My mother in law is just a horrible bigot, I wouldn't introduce her to my sister who lives with a girl since THAT incident at dinner when she went on a disgusting homophobic rant in front of my 9 year old daughter.
Soldato
https://openpolicing.stanford.edu/findings/
Blacks are more likely to be stopped than Whites. Hispanics less so.
Blacks and Hispanics are both more likely to be searched. Hispanics are found carrying contraband less often than whites, but are more likely to be searched by the police.
Overall, the police need to be less suspicious of hispanics/blacks to search them, after removing as much potential biases/hit rate success etc.
There's some really interesting data, from a huge database there.
Caporegime
This is the weirdest thing I've never understood. You treat a guy different because of his religion not his race.... Ok that's just being normal human being. You even said that with the vegetarian quip...
You treat s black guy different from a white guy just on their skin colour? So weird honestly... That makes you the good person?
I treat people as people until I learn they are religious, vegetarian, gay, flat earther then adjust myself accordingly. Not oh this guys black he must be poor oppressed etc...
Weirdest outlook on people ever.
I read your reply it makes nosense. You count skin colour like anyone counts anything about anyone they know, that doesn't make colour anymore important than being lactose intolerant.
Read the link and find very little to support the assertion that differential rates of outcomes are not the basis of differing underlying rates criminality rather than race.
Even the strongest claim made re the 'threshold test' .....
Blacks are vastly over represented as suspects in violent crime and murder rates in the US vs whites.
The New Jersey turnpike test was a pretty good attempt at looking at the issue as it completely disentangled the drivers outward appearance from one very relevant aspect of behaviour likely to lead to a traffic stop (speeding)
Blacks may have been stopped disproportionally to whites in terms of their absolute population demographics in this test but less than this aspect of offending (speeding) would suggest should be the case.
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It was the right thing to do. But surely you didn't treat your boss in that way because of his race? You treated him that way because of his religion.
If your boss was a white male Muslim what 'race' would that have been?
If my boss was a white male devout Christian i might reconsider arranging the work social get together on a Sunday morning.
I would not be considering his 'race' though.
If you can join or leave something (in a 'free' country) it isn't a 'race'
Why? I didn't say anything you just suggested. What I said is, because my brother in law is racist and will make my black friend uncomfortable because of his race I would consider that and spare my friend his uneducated bigotry. It's not my issue, it's my brother in law's, in that he will not take someone as he finds them.
Yes, but I also used disability and vegetarians too, the point was that you cannot 'not see' a part of someone and then expect to be a good friend or associate of them if you don't consider them in their totality.
I don't get it.
I can see why someone's disability would affect how I treated them (for example opening the door for them, arranging to meet somewhere I know has better access for them, etc). I can see why someone's religion would affect how I treated them (alcohol, certain foods, etc). But I can't see any reason why I would want to treat someone differently because of their race. Can you give an example?
Quoted for the gif. SuperbNope
Being a while male these threads means anything I write will be wrong
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