What manufacturer to buy from (or avoid)

sargan

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I am not familiar with manufacturers trends.
Been googling around there seems to be a lot of ‘don’t buy from this manufacturer’
Particularly on Reddit where there seems a lot of venom against ASUS and to a lesser degree Gigabyte.

Should I avoid these brands … and only consider ASRock or MSI, or are they all good makes.
 
From what i have `read`ASUS CS sucks,any excuse to avoid paying out in warranty
Supposed to be good products and Bios when working though.I have not used ASUS for many years though
 
ANDARIAL said:
From what i have `read`ASUS CS sucks,any excuse to avoid paying out in warranty
Supposed to be good products and Bios when working though.I have not used ASUS for many years though
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I was surprised when I saw how 'anti-ASUS' it is in Reddit, and even on LInkedIn a large articles about the gaming community combined action against ASUS
My current Intel motherboard is from ASUS,. and worked fine since 2012
 
ANDARIAL said:
From what i have `read`ASUS CS sucks,any excuse to avoid paying out in warranty
Supposed to be good products and Bios when working though.I have not used ASUS for many years though
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I have a Z68 Asus motherboard from 2011 still going strong, my current 10 months old Asus B650E board no issues, great BIOS support and stability IMHO, only had one motherboard die and that was MSI motherboard after warranty (I stlll like them and every brand has boards that do die,) CS support does vary from manufacturer to manufactuer. Personally I would buy a new motherboard depending on need and if CS support sucks while waiting, any excuse to upgrade : ) and use the replacement when it finally arrives in my backup PC so I don't worry too much about CS support with motherboards.

End of the day I have had faullty ram (Corsair,Crucial), power supplies die, Seagate and Samsung hard drives, occupational hazard when you use or build PCs with regards to hardware. Just as well I've more then one PC :) .
 
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I used to use Asus boards all the time with no issues, currently on a 7 year old gigabyte, again with no issues.

Manufacturing cuts have definitely got worse and worse for literally everything over the years, and I have certainly seen a lot more complaints on the Asus stuff recently, when I've been looking at a new mobo/CPU setup.
 
yeah i too have an old ASUS board Z68 i think,still going strong:)
my comment was about `comments i have read over the years of appalling customer service`
 
If you search, you'll find advice not to trust any of the major motherboard manufacturers. All of them have had their fair share of bad news. You could easily extend the current online hate of Asus onto Asrock who are owned by Asus. If you listenned to it all, you'd never buy anything.

My advice ? ignore the current online trend for who it's cool to hate. It wasn't so long ago the current pin cushion was MSI. Just so happens that thanks to Gamers Nexus's video Asus is the current company to take a bashing. I've always bought asus motherboards and never had any issues.

MSI. Shady

Asus. Scumbags

Gigabyte, makers of exploding power supplies
 
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sargan said:
I am not familiar with manufacturers trends.
Been googling around there seems to be a lot of ‘don’t buy from this manufacturer’
Particularly on Reddit where there seems a lot of venom against ASUS and to a lesser degree Gigabyte.

Should I avoid these brands … and only consider ASRock or MSI, or are they all good makes.
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Well Asus had had some controversy of late with regards to killing CPUs due to incorrect voltage settings in BIOS.

See here https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-responds-to-negative-press-around-am5-issues

Gigabyte have their critics of some of their motherboards for various reasons and one of those critics is Buildzoid who is a god in the overclocking scene.

Asrock took Hardware unboxed off their approved marketing list so that they wouldn’t receive launch products after Hardware unboxed reviewed their entry level motherboards and found them to be rubbish.

Nvidia did the same as Asrock.

MSI have had some poor products over the years too but also some good ones.

That being said, all manufacturers have good and bad models and anyone who says “I’ve had this product since 1901 and it’s fine” is giving you a sample of 1 which is not helpful.

I’d suggest going with a good model product that’s well reviewed rather than just going with brand X or Y.

people always generalise and they have their preferences but that’s not the whole picture.
 
JollyJamma said:
Well Asus had had some controversy of late with regards to killing CPUs due to incorrect voltage settings in BIOS.

See here https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-responds-to-negative-press-around-am5-issues

Gigabyte have their critics of some of their motherboards for various reasons and one of those critics is Buildzoid who is a god in the overclocking scene.

Asrock took Hardware unboxed off their approved marketing list so that they wouldn’t receive launch products after Hardware unboxed reviewed their entry level motherboards and found them to be rubbish.

Nvidia did the same as Asrock.

MSI have had some poor products over the years too but also some good ones.

That being said, all manufacturers have good and bad models and anyone who says “I’ve had this product since 1901 and it’s fine” is giving you a sample of 1 which is not helpful.

I’d suggest going with a good model product that’s well reviewed rather than just going with brand X or Y.

people always generalise and they have their preferences but that’s not the whole picture.
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You can find bad CS from any manufacturer or company, end of the day we buy from different shops/online companies and their CS is different depending on where you buy, yes motherboard manufacturers have different CS support/standard which also varies from country to country as well , any board that has to be sent back for repairs/replacement is a pain regardless of one week or a month or more turnaround.
As to Asus voltage issue that did effect other motherboards as well on Auto setting or manual voltage overclocking, Asus is just a well known overclocking board and so was picked up early with this issue , why do you think AMD made the limit to 1.3v for 7800X3D etc for ALL motherboard brands via BIOS update and not just Asus. Overclocked CPU 1.4v was risky and I can see why AMD lowered it.

As always people like to hate Asus for no reason nowadays, personally I have used Abit, Epox, DFI, MSI, Asus, ECS etc to name a few and never had any issues over the decades unless you count one MSI board dying after warranty (which I don't blame MSI).
I pick my board on value and features I need , then make a short list of four or five boards and look at reviews to give me a better picture before I decide, always will.
 
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Gigabyte is a bit hit and miss but generally the complaints there are the software support isn't as good - often slower releasing features and/or lots of beta BIOS without as frequent stable version releases, some of their top tier boards hardware wise are very good. I've had a very good experience with them personally over the years but they are known for off-loading parts which binned at lower quality in production into certain regions, etc. causing them to have a poor reputation there.

Personally had a very poor time with Asus, beyond motherboards, and won't use them again - both very poor design and quality control and extremely poor customer service especially the 3rd parties they palm off anything RMA related to. I still encounter similar issues not infrequently when supporting other people who use Asus and look at the situation with the Ally with various issues like the SD card failing due to poor design and other failures caused by poor quality parts or thermal issues, etc.

MSI is generally somewhere in between.
 
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Well, I have a self build Gigabyte Z77X-D3H with intel Core i5 3570K now for quite a few years and going strong. No problems with it. Only prob is I can't update to Win11 with it. Not that I want to.
I also have a New MSI Z690A DDR4 + a 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 (NVIDIA) +
Intel Processor
Specification 12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700K That I had OCUK build for me with NO problems so far.
 
Asus, wouldn't risk the customer service.

MSI is generally good, but I've run into build quality issues with silly things like m.2 cooling and mounting. And their software is awful.

I'm currently on Gigabyte again for the 1st time in years. So far, no complaints, but their bios feels quite watered down compared to MSI.
 
I've had umpteen Asus boards, Asrock, MSI both new and used currently have a Gigabyte and I've never had any issues with of them. A lot of this stuff is tribal people very attached to ideas about whats good and whats bad often based on personal experience for instance I've had poor experience with EVGA gfx cards but everyone else thinks they're the greatest thing since sliced bread, or they used to be. Go figure.
 
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I've had poor experience with EVGA gfx cards but everyone else thinks they're the greatest thing since sliced bread, or they used to be. Go figure.
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I had a pretty poor experience with EVGA motherboards actually - albeit I think the problem was more the nForce chipset - the 750i FTW board would just hard lock at random during video playback and they could never fixed it and a 680 board had a lot of known issues. EVGA for some reason got hit nearly as hard as BFG with the nVidia BGA solder issue as well.

To be fair the only 600 or 700 series nForce boards I found to ever be 100% stable was the Gigabyte N650SLI-DS4 - I dunno what magic they did but not only was it the only fully stable implementation it also had ridiculously fast RAM bandwidth - ~22% faster than any other LGA775 board for some reason.
 
Blackjack Davy said:
I've had umpteen Asus boards, Asrock, MSI both new and used currently have a Gigabyte and I've never had any issues with of them. A lot of this stuff is tribal people very attached to ideas about whats good and whats bad often based on personal experience for instance I've had poor experience with EVGA gfx cards but everyone else thinks they're the greatest thing since sliced bread, or they used to be. Go figure.
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This... I'm pretty much brand agnostic... I decide what socket I need..
Then what chipset.
Then what essential features I need, such as onboard wifi/bt etc

and the motherboard pretty much specs itself then.

I go for lowest price but might increase it for better onboard audio or whatever.
 
I used a spreadsheet from Thriplerex to filter motherboards by features. I paid particular attention to Phase config, VRM and Wifi 6E. This bowled out a lot of motherboards. Particularly Asus, which opted to go for Wifi 6 in the majority of cases. In the end I was left with B650M Mortar or B650 Tomahawk. ASRock Steel legend has great features but availability was scarce at time of ordering.
 
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