What manufacturer to buy from (or avoid)
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Whilst i have never owned Asus, my other half's PC has been running on an Asus Tuf mobo for at least 6 years with no issues. My current MSI Tomahawk (AM4) and previous (AM3) have been perfectly fine with no issues either. At the end of the day it really should boil down to what features you need and how much you are prepared to pay for them or the quirks that you are willing to put up with.
My Asus Z68 board still going strong which is 12 years old with no issues, four old Asus routers boxed away all in working order, present Asus B650E board no issues which is only one year old. End of the day any brand can fail, I have had MSI, Crucial, OCZ, Corsair, TP Link, Netgear all die or go faulty.
I would still buy most brands I listed (that died on me) apart from Netgear ( their routers have gone downhill IMHO). End of the day I go for good specs, pricing and support with regards to BIOS and firmware updates etc... Just remember no brand is bullet proof. My new Asus TUF-AX6000 router is working great ( I normally buy TP Link or Asus for routers).
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bless, this one is young he as not yet seen the path...
when your 20 or 30 year deep you will see some are a lot worse then others
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Haven't touched one in awhile but never been impressed by the stock firmware on Asus routers - in the past you pretty much had to use the Merlin modified firmware to get stable, full feature working, operation. Both of the Asus routers I had developed silly issues - the power button stopped working on one and when I opened it up it was a really really cheap part with like 1/10th the rating for operations, etc. compared to the next most expensive part which was like 2p more, probably less when bought in large bulk.
Which has been the story for me when it comes to Asus stuff - even the supposedly premium tier stuff they cheap out somewhere and put like some really cheap and nasty generic capacitors or something like that... I've opened up more than one ROG Swift designated models i.e. the original G-Sync monitor to find they've had to do some rectification of silly design faults post production where stuff has just been slapped in place with silver tape to fix it... which ironically wasn't the point of failure that was killing a lot of them.
Sure there are plenty of people who have no problems with Asus stuff, but I won't touch them personally now after my experiences over the years.
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I'm speaking from my own experience, end of the day we all have different opinions and experiences, I'll say using the latest stock firmware on my latest Asus router, again no issues and yes it can take merlin firmware which I never bothered with, just remember most computer parts are made in China and Taiwan so it's down to quality control at the factorys in question.
Pick ANY brand and you can find users that hate them or had bad experiences. No brand is the best end of the day, most people buy on good pricing and specs. As to Asus power button, ironically I never turn them off, if I ever do it is at the extension socket which has a switch. I set mine to reboot automatically once a week in the router settings (Tuesday 3.00AM) and leave it alone.
I won't bother you with my Netgear routers with buggy firmware and dying routers within a week.
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Complete nonsense. I've been building PC's since x386 and 486 and had all manner of motherboards.
I've only ever had one board failiure and that was a Gigabyte... but to be fair it was probably 10 years old at the time.
i still wouldn't rule out buying a gigabyte board... I just buy what I need for the best price at the time.
that doesn't change the fact some are a lot worse than others.. i mean AM5 Asus they put out a bios to fix a problem and put in the notes that using it voided your warranty
tbf yer
I think you are referring to the 7800X3D voltage issue while overclocking or using the auto setting voltage back early last year?..AMD reduced the voltage to 1.3v safe limit for 7800X3D, a lot of motherboards could overclock with more then 1.3v on CPU ie 1.4v on auto or even manually which was not safe, so all boards would be effected if you use or set more then 1.3v back then until AMD released a sensible BIOS update voltage limit fix (back in April 2023) for all motherboard brands.
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you cant oc x3d chips... im refering to asus pumping the SOC voltage to a stupid number
What parts do they cheap out on?
It had a button which physically clicked down to latch on and then stayed down until you depressed it to unlatch to turn off, after awhile that became unreliable and would just turn itself off at random and/or a pain to make it latch down to turn on, I could have de-soldered it and replaced as I've a bunch of them but instead just stuck it down in the on position until I replaced the router. The metal parts were so flimsy it might as well have been made of kitchen foil...
On the new X870 they are using 6 layer PCBs on mid range boards.
Their GPUs also seem quite poorly made and have a lot of issues according to Northwest repair.
What is an SoC?
An SoC is an integrated circuit (IC) that combines many of the components of an electronic device into a single chip. This includes the CPU, memory, input/output (I/O) interfaces, and other system components.
SoC is part of the cpu ie memory controller etc ,do a Google search you'll see people (Overclockers) pumping voltage into it even now, again AMD fixed this by reducing the SoC voltage to 1.3v safe limit, Asus and other brands pumping too much voltage over 1.3 limit, users even now try to max out SoC, use Google search you'll see even now. By having 1.3v limit it stops burnouts and over zelaous users.
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Build quality of Gigabyte parts has always varied widely by market region for some reason, some parts of the world they have a very poor reputation for it, in the UK we seem to get the good stuff mostly. I remember there was a shipment of their Fermi cards intended for the Middle East market that ended up here and they were pretty ropey with rattly and prematurely failing fans, parts like the sheath not sitting flush in place, connectors which had been lazily placed before soldering, etc. etc.